[OSM-talk] London Underground stations?

[Etienne]

On 7/5/06, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
>
> On 5 Jul 2006, at 20:27, Jo Walsh wrote:
>
> > Huh. I thought LUL - or what was left of it after the selloff to Tube
> > Lines / Metronet - was subsumed by Transport For London [0].
> > Have TfL have really been issuing takedowns? On what grounds? Can you
> > dig out references for this?
>
> As Tom posted the other day, "the things that have been subject to
> take-downs are things that were using modified official tube maps or
> using the tube roundel trademark in some way". So it's the artistic
> design that they're guarding jealously.


And yet this:
http://www.davidandassociates.co.uk/davidandblog/archive/tfl/the_Tate_Gallery_by_Tube.jpg
which is advertising the Tate Gallery, and this:
http://www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?cgroupid=999999961&workid=21700&searchid=9345&tabview=image
which is hanging in the Tate are both copying the artistic design of the
London tube map.  I haven't heard that anyone has objected to these.

This accords with my experience - while at Waterscape, I drew this,
> which we were going to put out as a nice little bit of PR:
> http://www.systemeD.net/carto/londonwaterways.gif


Very nice!

but British Waterways' lawyers insisted on checking with TfL, and TfL
> said "no ----ing way", claiming the design was too similar. Even the
> hardened BW guys were astonished how aggressive TfL was. (They claimed
> that people might get confused with the real map. Right.) TfL's map
> copyright stuff is actually administered by the London Transport Museum
> - go figure.
>
> OTOH, way back in 1999 or so, I drew this:
> http://www.systemeD.net/carto/underground_map1024.jpg


Also very nice!

which was actually picked up and used on the TfL page in Metro. But I
> suspect that was the work of an over-enthusiastic publishing agency and
> that TfL themselves weren't consulted.
>
> As a wise man once sang: "London Underground - they're all greedy
> ---ts, I want to shoot them all with a rifle, la la la la..."
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
> (apologies for digression)
>
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