[OSM-talk] About my stubbornness

Immanuel Scholz immanuel.scholz at gmx.de
Sun Jul 23 13:12:47 BST 2006


Hi again,

some people on IRC convinced me to write my real problems why I am so
overacting the last weeks.

OSM looked like a totally open, GPL'd (CC-sa for data) community,
wanting to affront Google Inc & Co by having the opposite site of a
license. (I have to add, that I measure GPL and CC-sa as more free than
public domain.)

Then I asked Steve for the database once.
I asked the second time.
The third.
...
Then Steve said he don't want to release the database with different
reasons each time.

Then sometime Steve overreacted against an attempt by someone who liked
to rewrite the server in python.

So I became suspicious about how open this project really is.

Of course, it doesn't help my concerns that Steve announced that he
want to try changing the data license to public domain.


Now today morning, I pinged Steve asking him whether I may create an
anonymous account. From his reaction I interpreted, that he is never
going to provide an anonymous account and that he likes to prevent
anonymity.

So unfortunately my picture of Steve changed.


There are some basics that I don't want to have to discuss about:
- the data should be free accessible for all time
- controlling power should be distributed.
- anonymity is good
- don't fool people


Steve has currently a very tight grip on the whole OSM project. He has
been elected as chairmen for the next three years.


So my real fear is, where this all will lead into and whether I am
currently spending wasted time into this all..

Ciao, Imi.






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