[OSM-talk] About my stubbornness

[Ronan Oger]

Hi Dutch,

I think you misunderstood me, and I appear to have struck a nerve. 

I was not discussing the act of snooping other peoples communications, but 
about someone using a dsl user's open network to submit copyrighted content 
(for whatever reason), hence breaking the accountability chain for the source 
of the content.

As for wardriving not being about piggybacking on other peoples' bandwith, 
that's news to me. When I hunt around looking for an open network, it's 
generally to use it. And there's nothing illegal about this afaik. Some 
people may do it as sport, but everyone I have ever met wardriving has only 
done it with the intent to use it. And there is nothing illegal about using 
these public facilities. After all, anyone who wants to stop piggybacking can 
simply limit access using a number of options from passwords to mac 
addresses.

Ronan

On Wednesday 26 July 2006 13:25, J.D. Schmidt wrote:
> Ronan Oger wrote:
> > The only (partial) exception is people who are wardriving and scoop
> > unsuspecting peoples' IP traffic. Generally, though, these people make up
> > a small minority of users. And in that case, the legally responsible
> > person is still the account holder of the dsl line.
>
> Wardriving and scooping unsuspecting peoples IP traffic is mutually
> exclusive. The first is a hobby, in the like of the favourite british
> hobby of Trainspotting, while the latter is a criminal offence.
>
> Wardriving has nothing whatsoever to do with connecting and using other
> peoples network connections. Equalizing Wardriving with bandwith theft
> and illegal network access, is another case of the media getting things
> wrong.
>
> Do a google search for "Stumbler code of ethics" and read BlackWave's
> definition of the word "wardriving", which IMHO is the most precise
> definition around on the subject :
> http://www.netstumbler.org/showpost.php?p=48649&postcount=1
>
> J.D. "Dutch" Schmidt.
>
> J.D. "Dutch" Schmidt

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