[OSM-talk] Abandoned railways

[Ben Robbins]

If there is a status=disused, then should it not be status=abandoned 
additonal to the railway=xyz?  Although would the status=abandoned render 
just have to render over the railway=xyz?  and in that case the 
status=abandoned would need to render a thick invisble line so as if 
nessesery it can cover airstrips and other wide things.

Ben





From: "Andy Robinson" <Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "'Ben Robbins'" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>,<talk at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:35:32 -0000

Ben Robbins [mailto:ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com]
 >Sent: 18 November 2006 10:30 PM
 >To: Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk; talk at openstreetmap.org
 >Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
 >
 >Hmm, actually abaondoned is the incorrect term for what i tag.  It should
 >really be dismantled, as abandoned inplies it is there and unused, while 
in
 >fact the rail and sleepers have been taken away.
 >
 >This leaves me with option 2 meaning there would be the railway, abandoned
 >and dismantled keys.  I would then tag it dismantled=narrowgauge (or
 >whatever).
 >
 >This works ok, but In making a key It woudl be good to no it can be a 
group
 >that a lot would fit into.  While a lot can fit under abandoned, not so
 >many
 >other things would go under dismantled.  Although I suppose thats no 
reason
 >to not allow them to be put there if nessesery.   dismantled=mineshaft or
 >dismantled=manor maybe needed...
 >
 >Ben
 >

Ben,

I think abandoned is correct. Where the track is in place but not in use it
would be status=disused

Andy


 >
 >
 >
 >From: "Andy Robinson" <Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk>
 >To: "'Ben Robbins'" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>,<talk at openstreetmap.org>
 >Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
 >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:12:52 -0000
 >
 >Ben Robbins wrote:
 > >Sent: 18 November 2006 6:17 PM
 > >To: talk at openstreetmap.org
 > >Subject: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
 > >
 > >
 > >Currently the abandoned railways tag is under railways.  This means its
 > >inposible to state if its an abandoned monorail, or an abandoned narrow
 > >gauge etcetc.
 > >
 > >I usaully tag highway=railway railway=abandoned.  But i now realise that
 > >highway=railway is 1) an outdated tag, and 2) not actually any more
 > >specific.
 > >
 > >There seems only 3 options:
 > >
 > >1) "railway=abandoned_[------]"  with railway type in the brackets
 > >2) Have an abandoned key wich anything can go under.  e.g.
 > >abandoned=narrowgauge
 > >3) (The way that seems a wastful use of a key and unorgansised but ill
 >add
 > >it anyway)  railway=narrowgauge + abandoned=yes
 > >
 > >Personally I prefer idea 2, as this can then work fine for everything
 > >(abandoned=building or abandoned=unclassified etcetc)
 > >
 >
 >Ben,
 >
 >I believe your approach 2 is the best option and the way I have considered
 >this type of problem previously. It separates out the physical description
 >(railway=rail) from the administrative (status=abandoned) the latter is
 >probably not being used right now but it would appear appropriate unless 
we
 >have another similar across the board status type key that is in use.
 >"condition" might be an alternative.
 >
 >Cheers
 >
 >Andy
 >
 > >Can people email replies to: >> ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com,
 > >talk at openstreetmap.org <<, cause it saves a of time searching threw the
 > >archive, and continuesly refreshing.
 > >
 > >Thanks
 > >
 > >Ben
 > >
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