[OSM-talk] Abandoned railways

[Andy Robinson]

Ben Robbins [mailto:ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com] wrote:
>Sent: 18 November 2006 10:40 PM
>To: Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk; talk at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
>
>
>
>If there is a status=disused, then should it not be status=abandoned
>additonal to the railway=xyz?  Although would the status=abandoned render
>just have to render over the railway=xyz?  and in that case the
>status=abandoned would need to render a thick invisble line so as if
>nessesery it can cover airstrips and other wide things.
>
>Ben
>

If its still railway related (rather than having been turned into a
highway=cycleway for instance) the it should still be railway=rail.
Additionally it then should have the status=dismantled or status=abandoned.
You could also have status=live but that would be the assumed default.

When rendering, the rendering software should pick up the status=abandoned
or whatever and apply the appropriate style depending whether it's a
railway=rail or aeroway=runway or whatever the physical feature is.

Cheers

Andy

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>From: "Andy Robinson" <Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk>
>To: "'Ben Robbins'" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>,<talk at openstreetmap.org>
>Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
>Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:35:32 -0000
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>Ben Robbins [mailto:ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 18 November 2006 10:30 PM
> >To: Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk; talk at openstreetmap.org
> >Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
> >
> >Hmm, actually abaondoned is the incorrect term for what i tag.  It should
> >really be dismantled, as abandoned inplies it is there and unused, while
>in
> >fact the rail and sleepers have been taken away.
> >
> >This leaves me with option 2 meaning there would be the railway,
>abandoned
> >and dismantled keys.  I would then tag it dismantled=narrowgauge (or
> >whatever).
> >
> >This works ok, but In making a key It woudl be good to no it can be a
>group
> >that a lot would fit into.  While a lot can fit under abandoned, not so
> >many
> >other things would go under dismantled.  Although I suppose thats no
>reason
> >to not allow them to be put there if nessesery.   dismantled=mineshaft or
> >dismantled=manor maybe needed...
> >
> >Ben
> >
>
>Ben,
>
>I think abandoned is correct. Where the track is in place but not in use it
>would be status=disused
>
>Andy
>
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> >
> >
> >
> >From: "Andy Robinson" <Andy_J_Robinson at blueyonder.co.uk>
> >To: "'Ben Robbins'" <ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com>,<talk at openstreetmap.org>
> >Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
> >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 22:12:52 -0000
> >
> >Ben Robbins wrote:
> > >Sent: 18 November 2006 6:17 PM
> > >To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> > >Subject: [OSM-talk] Abandoned railways
> > >
> > >
> > >Currently the abandoned railways tag is under railways.  This means its
> > >inposible to state if its an abandoned monorail, or an abandoned narrow
> > >gauge etcetc.
> > >
> > >I usaully tag highway=railway railway=abandoned.  But i now realise
>that
> > >highway=railway is 1) an outdated tag, and 2) not actually any more
> > >specific.
> > >
> > >There seems only 3 options:
> > >
> > >1) "railway=abandoned_[------]"  with railway type in the brackets
> > >2) Have an abandoned key wich anything can go under.  e.g.
> > >abandoned=narrowgauge
> > >3) (The way that seems a wastful use of a key and unorgansised but ill
> >add
> > >it anyway)  railway=narrowgauge + abandoned=yes
> > >
> > >Personally I prefer idea 2, as this can then work fine for everything
> > >(abandoned=building or abandoned=unclassified etcetc)
> > >
> >
> >Ben,
> >
> >I believe your approach 2 is the best option and the way I have
>considered
> >this type of problem previously. It separates out the physical
>description
> >(railway=rail) from the administrative (status=abandoned) the latter is
> >probably not being used right now but it would appear appropriate unless
>we
> >have another similar across the board status type key that is in use.
> >"condition" might be an alternative.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Andy
> >
> > >Can people email replies to: >> ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com,
> > >talk at openstreetmap.org <<, cause it saves a of time searching threw the
> > >archive, and continuesly refreshing.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Ben
> > >
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