[OSM-talk] Several approved features moved to Map_features page

[Barnett, Phillip]

Sorry, pressed Send too soon.

 "My point is that the two things are essentially the same, apart from
location in the centre of a village. Which we deal with by drawing it in
the centre of the village on the map! "

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That's a bit TOO simplistic.  Parker's Piece is a largish common in
Cambridge and fits exactly your definition of a village green. 

It is 'used by the general population for recreational purposes'
It's NOT owned by a single person (it's owned by the city) Nobody gains
a living off it. 

OTOH it's not in a village. 

My point is that the two things are essentially the same.

Phillip




 
 



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From: guy at graviles-reynolds.org [mailto:guy at graviles-reynolds.org]
Sent: 21 February 2007 17:14
To: Barnett, Phillip
Cc: David Earl; OSM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Several approved features moved to Map_features
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Quoting "Barnett, Phillip" <Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk>:

>  "even if most village greens are commons."
> Actually, ALL village greens are commons. That's part of the 
> definition of a village green.
>

Being wholly UK centric, whilst Village Greens can be Commons and vice
versa, they need not be.

A village green is legally defined as an area where people in the
community have enjoyed legitimate sports or pastimes for at least twenty
years. 'Legitimate sports or pastimes' include things like:

* cricket matches
* blackberry picking
* dog walking
* village fetes

To register a new village green you must prove that:

* the land is mainly used by local residents (rather than, say, day
trippers)
* it is used for legal activities
* it has been used for at least twenty years
* people haven't forced their way onto the land or used it in secrecy
* it has been used without the permission of the landowner.

In general terms, common land is land owned by one person over which
another person is entitled to exercise rights of common (such as grazing
animals or cutting bracken for livestock bedding), and these rights are
generally exercisable in common with others.

They are also subjected to different protection under the law

In simplistic terms a Village Green is used by the general population
for recreational purposes, where as a common is used by people other
than the owner to gain a livelihood.

Guy 'Batchoy' Reynolds
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