[OSM-talk] UK OSM Map

[Nick Black]

On 2/23/07, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:
> Nick Black wrote:
> > On 2/23/07, Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:
> >> SteveC wrote:
> >> > Ah our first 'can you do my homework for me' request, we must have
> >> > passed some kind of milestone :-) :-) :-)
> >>
> >> No you have reached the size where the access to information has become
> >> a complete mess :(
> >
> > you = you .  And I would strongly disagree that access to information
> > in a mess - it is sometimes slow and sometimes un-reliable, but we're
> > not Google - we dont have a million servers - we have 5 - and most of
> > them aren't even servers, see:
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Feeds
> >
> > The information on this page shouldnt be on a page called Feeds - but
> > its a wiki...
>
> That is part of the problem :(
> Navigation through any wiki is a pain and trying to work out what you
> need to search for is just as bad.
> But more of a problem is now that I have that page - how do I actually
> use the information on it :(
>
> >> HOW many accounts do I need with OSM? I've got several join up messages
> >> over the last few weeks and I am not sure what goes with what.
> >
> > Have you asked anyone about this?  Filed a bug report?  Have you tried
> > to sign up several times, or are the sign up messages being sent to
> > you witnout you asking.
>
> I think I have two mail list accounts along with the other two for wiki
> and map. But the point I was making was that the need for different
> account is not obvious when people are coming to the project new, going
> to the wiki and then getting directed to the map.
>
> >> *IS* there a simple page that explains that you have to use different
> >> accounts?
> >
> > Have you made one yet?  It would be fantastic to have a unified login
> > for the site and the wiki, but the code won't magic itself.
>
> I know the problem, but currently my spare time is being spent getting
> the bones of my surrounding rural area actually into the map. I now have
> a set of tools that seem to work from the laptop and am actually bing
> productive. When I get time I will do a page on THAT.
>
> >> Personally I would still like to see a page that tells me how I can
> >> monitor what I am uploading and check why - when I return later - some
> >> ways are no longer connected to all their segments.
> >
> > Do you think this is because of a bug, or because someone is changing
> > your updloads.  You can get histories from the API like:
> >
> > GET segment/22/history
> >
> > which might help you figure out what's going on.
>
> Not had time to investigate what had happened. I loaded a section over
> the weekend, when I went back Monday some bits were broken. I fixed them
> loaded a lot more, and when I went back in last night other sections
> were broken. It's difficult enough finding time to do it once ...
> Now I have to work out what you are talking about ;)
> I'm using JOSM as my interface - how do I do a 'GET' - WHICH account do
> I use for the 'API' access anyway?

GET is what a browser does by default.  Using your favourtie browser,
type this into the URL field:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.3/segment/22/history

You are then challenged for the mysterious Ruby Auth - this is your
credentials to access the API, the same username and passowrd that you
use to sign into the Map page, or to use JOSM or your favourite
editor.

If your auth is accepted, you will probably be presented with a blank
page.  Click "View Page Source" and you will see OSM XML of the
objects you requested.  Thsi works for nodes and segs, but is broken
for ways.

Hope this helps,

>
> >> It's time that someone whoo does NOT know the answers had a look at
> >> navigating the site :(
> >
> > By the site, do you mean wiki?
> Yes - and I know all the problems, but there needs to be a set of core
> rules that make basic operations easy to use. 'GET' on the wiki took me
> to wikipedia which gives a very nice explanation of what it is but
> NOTHING on how to do it in OSM?
>
> >> ( And I *STILL* keep pigging forgetting to direct replies to the place I
> >> get the messages from !!!!!! )
> And Steve I only have a couple of lists that cause me problems with MY
> setup. All the rest work nicely ;)
>
> Anyway I've blown todays time allowance :(
>
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