[OSM-talk] Bus sluices and blocked roads

[80n]

There's a nice "instructional" video about rising bollards on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEbmJi3ROKk

Enjoy.
80n

On 1/9/07, David Earl <david at frankieandshadow.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> > [mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org]On Behalf Of Kristian Thy
> > Sent: 09 January 2007 11:35
> > To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> > Subject: [OSM-talk] Bus sluices and blocked roads
> >
> >
> > In Denmark and the Netherlands (at least) we have a contraption called a
> > bus sluice - a hole in the road too wide for small cars, but navigable
> > by buses and other wide vehicles - for pictures, see:
> >
> > http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussluis
> > http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bussluse
> >
> > I'll put up a feature proposal for this on nodes - should be shown as an
> > orthogonal line across the road (in red, perhaps?).
> >
> > Another common feature in Denmark (Copenhagen, at least) is an
> > equivalent "bike sluice" - a road blocked by a fence with holes wide
> > enough for bikes to pass, but not cars. Until now, I've tagged these by
> > breaking the way in two and inserting a very short cycleway between
> > them, but IMO it should really be a node feature as well. Any thoughts
> > on this? An orthogonal line across the road the same color as a
> > cycleway?
>
> We have similar arrangements here in Cambridge, and elsewhere in the UK.
> In
> Cambridge, instead of a hold in the road, they use a rising bollard which
> a
> transponder on the bus lowers to let it through (In Oxford, they just put
> a
> sign up saying 'buses only' or some such). In Cambridge these bus gates
> all
> have cycle bypasses. In at least one case, the restrictions depend on time
> of day (bollards are lowered at other times).
>
> We also have the cycle gaps you mention. Further, we have streets which
> are
> one way for only the few metres at the end, with a cycle gap to allow
> cyclists to bypass the no entry (a 'cycle plug').
>
> So far I have represented these as follows (I did them this way so they
> show
> up on the rendering; I noted we already have tags to determine allowed
> access permissions for buses (psv) and the like):
>
> Bus gate: three ways linked to two nodes (close together). The ways on the
> outside are highway=cycleway and the one on the inside is
> highway=unclassified or whatever and access=no psv=yes. To make it clearer
> I
> have sometimes used highway=service to distinguish it from the roads at
> either end. Example in the middle of:
>
> http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802721.86463&lon=12660.11922&zoom=16&lay
> ers=B0
> (the restriction isn't indicated, of course)
> (Photo of this: http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/9398/)
>
> Cycle only gap: just a short length of cycleway between two highways
> Examples, between Leys Road and Highworth Avenue at
>
> http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6806406.36746&lon=14531.63168&zoom=16&lay
> ers=B0 (photo N at http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/50/article7.html
> )
> and on Hooper Street at
>
> http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802767.24911&lon=15708.64223&zoom=15&lay
> ers=B0
> (photo
>
> http://www.camcycle.org.uk/campaigning/subgroups/obstructions/images/P000423
> 2_small.JPG)
>
> Cycle plug: a short length of oneway highway continuing the two way road,
> with a short length of cycleway parallel.
> Example: several along St Philips Road at
>
> http://labs.metacarta.com/osm/?lat=6802421.49106&lon=16275.94818&zoom=16&lay
> ers=B0 (the oneways don't render, yet - they should really have an arrow
> on
> them) (photo http://www.camcycle.org.uk/map/location/6357/)
>
> (sorry about the photo quality - they're not mine!)
>
> David
>
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