[OSM-talk] AND donate entire street network of Netherlands to OSM

paul youlten paul.youlten at gmail.com
Thu Jul 5 09:48:02 BST 2007

Steve: you need to say sorry for being so rude to Frederick
Frederik: you need to recognise that your negativity and gloom is as big a
threat to wider participation in OSM as Steve's Tourettes

Paul Y

On 7/5/07, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> > But, especially here, especially with this reply, maybe it could
> > prove more useful to try to hold off on replies like this, take
> > some deep breaths, re-read what has been said and try to respond in
> > a much calmer way... Please try to calm down a little, it's good
> > that you are so passionate about the project,
> I'd go a bit further and say: Behaviour like this overshadows any
> positive fruits one is contributing.
> If it weren't Our Great Founder And Director Of OSMF, we'd probably
> show him the door in no time. Imagine someone new to the project,
> bringing with him valuable assets but at the same time asking for the
> right to call anyone a fuckwit who dares to question these. I'd say,
> take your assets elsewhere.
> Steve, if you go on like this, you are a liability for the project. I
> suggest you retire from OSM, and set up a similar project led by a
> commercial entity, with paid contributors, owned by you. Then you can
> treat your employees any way you like.
> You say "people like me could work more on OSM if..." - I am not even
> interested in you working more for the project. You're doing too much
> already, you think the project would go nowhere without you. Working
> more will only add to this misconception.
> Bye
> Frederik
> --
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