[OSM-talk] advertising

Nick Black nickblack1 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 6 16:52:07 BST 2007

On 7/6/07, Sebastian Spaeth <Sebastian at sspaeth.de> wrote:
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> paul youlten wrote:
> > Let's not get distracted by smoking... let's stick to maps.
> >
> > So here is the thing: Maps and commerce are closely linked. Always have
> > been;
> agreed up to here. But that is actually one of the reasons why OSM
> exists (at least for some of us). To decouple the maps from commerce and
> make them a true public good.

So something that is released under an open license cannot also exist
within the commercial domain?  Please.  Ubuntu anyone?  If OSM was
about decoupling maps from commerce, we would use a non-Commercial

A commercial entity *can* be good for the public.

> > always will be.
> No. See above.
> > Commercial services very clearly add value to maps used by car drivers:
> > A road atlas without ferry links, toll bridges, motorway service
> > stations, petrol stations isn't as valuable (to drivers) as one with
> > this information.
> You use google for searching, right? Why do you use a search machine
> that ranks according to some kind of objective merit, rather than a
> search engine that spits out links first where a company paid most for.
> I am not saying that advertizing as long as it is clearly marked as such
> (as google does) is bad per se. But your argument is rather weak, as
> this is no added value, it only provides a very biased value added: info
> on those companies who have shelled out most.

> Of course, I want all fast food places displayed. But if McDonalds pays
> Mappam to not show any BurgerKing places, then I'd rather not have any
> of that "information". Thank you.
> OK, done. I'm not going to comment on Mappam anymore.
> Spaetz
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