[OSM-talk] OSM as Map Publishers (was Re: TomTom acqures TeleAltas)

[Steve Chilton]

One map - the mapnik rendering (as it stands at the moment this
represents the data in the most professional manner IMO).
Niche stuff like cycle-specific output (which you [AndyA] recently
nicely previewed), etc should be supported but not necessarily hosted on
core OSM hardware. CTC, Sustrans (whose online maps I have NOT been
impressed by) etc asked to put funding up for this perhaps.

And in answer to Tom C's points in separate email:
Yes it should not be so hidden. Maybe someone could highlight the
technique for producing URL with separate marker and centre locations if
it is not on wiki.
Provision of a key was touched on at SOTM conference. Perhaps that, and
this discussion, will prompt someone to take that topic and run with it.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager 
School of Health and Social Sciences
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: steve8 at mdx.ac.uk

Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/

SoC conference 2007:
http://www.port.ac.uk/special/soc/

Mind the (Map) Gap:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5413010.stm



-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Allan
Sent: 23 July 2007 16:44
To: Steve Chilton
Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM as Map Publishers (was Re: TomTom acqures
TeleAltas)

On 7/23/07, Steve Chilton <S.L.Chilton at mdx.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> My view is that the project SHOULD publish a full map of its data.

How many different maps though? 2? 15?

> I envisage a situation sometime in the future where it will be normal
for
> people to use permalinks from their websites to the OSM site whenever
they
> wish to include a location map.

I envisage a situation sometime (slightly further?) in the future
where people post a url to any web map they like, and they'll all be
derived ultimately from OSM data.

I don't think we were ever in the game of the One True Map website.

Cheers,
Andy

>This will only be possible with a full web
> map presence. This will also be part of the move to a pervasive OSM
> presence.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> STEVE
>
>
> Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
>  Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager
>  School of Health and Social Sciences
>  Middlesex University
>  phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
>  email: steve8 at mdx.ac.uk
>
>  Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/
>
>  SoC conference 2007:
>  http://www.port.ac.uk/special/soc/
>
>  Mind the (Map) Gap:
>  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5413010.stm
>
>
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org]
> On Behalf Of 80n
>  Sent: 23 July 2007 15:20
>  To: Mikel Maron
>  Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
>  Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM as Map Publishers (was Re: TomTom acqures
> TeleAltas)
>
>
>
> I've been pondering for some time whether OSM should be hosting our
own
> slippy maps or whether our role should be to *only* provide raw data.
> Leaving it to others to render and publish slippy maps etc.
>
>  A couple of relevant but unrelated threads today have prompted me to
throw
> this topic up for discussion.
>
>  On the one hand, we don't have hundreds of servers that can be used
for
> delivering maps to the world, but on the other hand, if we don't do
this,
> then how will ordinary users be able to provide the feedback to us
that will
> help keep the maps up to date.
>
>  Clearly TomTom have realised that by owning TeleAtlas they can use
the
> MapShare feedback to update the source data that TeleAtlas has.
>
>  On a separate thread over on the dev mailing list, Sebastian just
asked
> what should be the relative priorities for services running on the
dev/tah
> server.  Should tiles at home processing displace web-hosting for SotM,
etc?
> Part of the answer to this question depends on whether OSM sees its
role as
> publishers of rendered map tiles, or just publishers of the raw data.
>
>  So, should OSM's responsibility stop at providing a real time API and
> weekly copies of planet.osm or should we also be hosting slippy maps
(and if
> so how many different flavours?)
>
>  80n
>
>
> On 7/23/07, Mikel Maron < mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting development, considering that TomTom also recently
launched
> MapShare, which allows TomTom users to report problems with map data.
>  At SotM, Ed Parsons had a slide on MapShare, and there was some
discussion
> over what they'd do with that data .. now I think we know.
>
>
http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/3126-TomTom-Auquires-Tele-Atlas.ht
ml
>
http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/2949-TomTom-MapShare-allows-driver
s-to-edit-maps.html
>
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