[OSM-talk] will we be nuked from orbit?

Robert (Jamie) Munro rjmunro at arjam.net
Wed Jul 25 13:51:16 BST 2007


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Thomas Walraet wrote:
> Chris Fleming wrote:
>> In this context, it's interesting to note that we already have access to 
>> the yahoo's arial imagery and not googles.
> 
> Has someone asked Google if we can use their imagery, as Mikel Maron did 
> with Yahoo ?

I asked Ed Parsons at the Google developer day if I had the copyright of
the coordinates of something I have located using Google imagery
(without mentioning OSM), and basically the answer was yes you do have,
but not if you do it in bulk. He said the aerial imagery was less
problematic than the map data.

The normal terms are here:
http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_maps.html

Under the heading "map information" it says:
Also, you may not use Google Maps in a manner which gives you or any
other person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of numerical
latitude and longitude coordinates.

But that is a clearly separate section from "Photographic Imagery" which
makes no such restriction, but it does say "You may not ... make
derivative works of the imagery", so the question comes back to what is
a "derivative work".

Although I think it would be OK for us to use the images, I don't think
the project can take the risk without the backing of Google.

Robert (Jamie) Munro
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