[OSM-talk] will we be nuked from orbit?

Chris Fleming me at chrisfleming.org
Wed Jul 25 14:20:23 BST 2007

Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote:
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> Thomas Walraet wrote:
>> Chris Fleming wrote:
>>> In this context, it's interesting to note that we already have access to 
>>> the yahoo's arial imagery and not googles.
>> Has someone asked Google if we can use their imagery, as Mikel Maron did 
>> with Yahoo ?
> I asked Ed Parsons at the Google developer day if I had the copyright of
> the coordinates of something I have located using Google imagery
> (without mentioning OSM), and basically the answer was yes you do have,
> but not if you do it in bulk. He said the aerial imagery was less
> problematic than the map data.
> The normal terms are here:
> http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_maps.html
> Under the heading "map information" it says:
> Also, you may not use Google Maps in a manner which gives you or any
> other person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of numerical
> latitude and longitude coordinates.
> But that is a clearly separate section from "Photographic Imagery" which
> makes no such restriction, but it does say "You may not ... make
> derivative works of the imagery", so the question comes back to what is
> a "derivative work".
> Although I think it would be OK for us to use the images, I don't think
> the project can take the risk without the backing of Google.
I would have thought that tracing over the images to produce  maps would 
definitely count as a derivative work.

Either way we would need to get an okay before we could actually do it....

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