[OSM-talk] Rejected: Landuse=green_space

[David Earl]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martijn van Oosterhout [mailto:kleptog at gmail.com]
> Sent: 11 June 2007 17:16
> To: Barnett, Phillip
> Cc: David Earl; Anthony; talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rejected: Landuse=green_space
>
>
> On 6/11/07, Barnett, Phillip <Phillip.Barnett at itn.co.uk> wrote:
> > In practise, nobody (well, maybe except winos) goes on them. They are
> > not at all the same thing, and are not used for the same purposes. They
> > have signs saying No Ball Games to deter kids playing on them, etc
>
> Odd. Here practically all green areas are "provided and maintained for
> recreation" (holland is a bit small to waste space), that's what your
> local council is for, to maintain these areas. I can't imagine why
> you'd want to stick up a sign "no ball games" but that's a difference
> I can imagine marking. (If you don't want kids playing on them, build
> a fence).
>
> I just suggest you make the distinction very clear on Map Features,
> because otherwise you're going to lose the distinction. green_space
> sounds better and I'd possibly accedently use it whereas it doesn't
> actually fit your intended meaning. What you appear to mean is
> "not_a_public_space".

I'm thinking maybe Philip is right and that it is something that is a
cultural thing - though I've just looked at the Amsterdam map and seen
places on it that I would guess are what we're talking about. The
differences between them (and garden, playground and common) just seem so
blindingly obvious to me, I can't understand why everyone else is having
such difficulty.

But rather than keep on arguing about it, I will take my camera with me next
time I go out and try and illustrate the difference.


>
> BTW, there's also a leisure=playground, common and garden. Do we have
> down pat exactly how they differ?


Except for Common, isn't this also obvious? Yes, there may be slight
overlaps where you have to make a decision or a compromise, but in most
cases, isn't it perfectly clear which to use?

Playground is a place with swings and slides for children, that kind of
thing. Wikipedia puts it quite well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playground

Garden is surely a place maintained for its floral and arboreal interest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden

Common is an English (and Welsh) thing: it's an area of open land, often
quite large, often meadow, which is not usually formally maintained like a
park, may not even be publicly owned, but which has a status which allows
public uses of some kinds. So if that doesn't apply elsewhere, presumably
you won't use it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons

David