[OSM-talk] Germany and the Cycle Map

[Andy Allan]

On 11/4/07, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net> wrote:
> Peter Miller wrote:
>
> > I am currently implement cycle routes using the 'route' relation
> > method and

For those following along, there's more details at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Proposed/Routes

> > am very pleased with the opportunities it creates. I am still using
> > ncn_ref,
> > rcn_ref etc but am adding relationships as well.

I think this might end up with the numbers appearing twice on the map,
if you're tagging both the ways and the relations with the same
information, but I'm not certain.

> > I would encourage Andy to start rendering both approaches

Both approaches are rendered already, but this is still *very
experimental*. Currently we're mainly looking at incidents where the
current tagging doesn't work - namely overlapping routes (where people
have tried using semicolons to separate the refs during way-tagging).
You can see an example of three overlapping lcn relations rendered in
Clapham Common http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=16&lat=6702663.12366&lon=-16333.07873&layers=B00
but it's hardly perfect.

> > so we can
> > start
> > deprecating ncx_ref in due course. JOSM needs to get a bit more
> > relationship
> > friendly

As Dave found when he was tagging the above situation, JOSM has quite
serious rough edges for relationship handling as it is.

> It's a little early to talk about deprecating ncn_ref.
>
> Some OSMers need to remember that there is more than one editor ;)

Quite, and I don't want to burden anyone with *having* to use
relationships where in most cases tagging ways is good enough (and,
more importantly, quick and easy). There's surely no plans from me to
deprecate way-tagging for the forseable future.

Cheers,
Andy