[OSM-talk] Oxford University use without attribution

[Steve Chilton]

Grand to see OSM used in what is presumably quite a high profile site,
and now attributed with links back.
Aside from the tile traffic issue, it does highlight the
completeness/accuracy aspect of OSM data. With such a window on the
project perhaps we should work hard to ensure the data is even better
than it obviously already is. I suggest an editing and mapping blitz
concentrating on the area inside the Oxford ring road. Anyone could
contribute, but particularly local OSMers. Just by looking at the map I
can see for instance that the road into town from Magdalene Bridge is
tagged as highway=secondary, yet named A420 (now I could change that but
am not 100% sure which is correct). Also Walton Street is
highway=secondary and suddenly stops and becomes
unclassified/residential - unlikely in practice, but again I don't have
a definite answer. Would someone care to take on task of local
checking/editing as indicated? I would be quite happy to fine-tooth
visually edit/check the data from my remote PC and feed data (off-list)
to check further on if required.
Similarly, Wolfson College is mapped in detail (by "socks" according to
tagging) but some other colleges are not. Without Yahoo coverage it
might be difficult to map buildings, but would someone take a list of
all colleges and ensure that they are all at least mapped as locations
and labelled.
Incidentally could someone explain/check why the ring road has A40 in
text as well as in shields (as do other trunk/green roads). When ref=foo
was changed to shields I thought the text in line was dropped. Are they
from old segments perhaps, which I have seen occur in my local area?
Overall though excellent shop window, showing the perceived value of OSM
data, which with a bit of work could be even more impressive.

Cheers
STEVE

Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager
School of Health and Social Sciences
Middlesex University
phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
email: steve8 at mdx.ac.uk

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-----Original Message-----
From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Allan
Sent: 22 October 2007 12:37
To: Stephen Gower
Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org; legal-talk at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Oxford University use without attribution

On 10/22/07, Stephen Gower <socks-openstreetmap.org at earth.li> wrote:
>   Oxford University's new website launched this morning.  Some of us
>   noted that they are using OSM data (in fact, pulling tiles straight
>   off the tile server) without attribution.  Was this cleared in any
>   way, or are they just abusing the free nature of OSM?
>
>
http://www.ox.ac.uk/applications/dynamic/map.rm?postcode=OX2+6UD&locatio
n=Wolfson%20College&id=490
>
>   Should we be flattered that the Oxford data is considered good
>   enough to use and let it go, or should we try to get them attribute
>   in some way?  Posted to legal because of the copyright violation,
>   and crossposted to talk because there may be bandwidth implications
>   for tile.openstreetmap.org.
>
>   In my juvenile manner, I'd be tempted to serve something other than
>   the requested tile if the referrer is www.ox.ac.uk - but perhaps it
>   would be best to be grownup and try to come to a proper
>   arrangement.

Perhaps this has already been discussed on legal-talk, but I can see
(what appears to be) sufficient attribution - perhaps it's changed
since you wrote it.

As for tile bandwidth, that's a different matter. I know I'd be dead
keen on people reusing the cycle layer images if the bandwidth use
wasn't extreme, but my feelings bear no impact on those of the
custodians of tile.openstreetmap.org

Cheers,
Andy

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