[OSM-talk] Voting
Dave Stubbs
osm.list at randomjunk.co.uk
Wed Apr 9 12:52:41 BST 2008
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Robin Paulson <robin.paulson at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/4/9 Dave Stubbs <osm.list at randomjunk.co.uk>:
>
> > > > maybe someone should tell the government? apparently we're all wasting
> > > > our time voting for them, and 'rough consensus' should be used to
> > > > decide who's in power.
>
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Bruce Cowan
> > <lists at bcowan.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 14:57 +0300, SteveC wrote:
> > > > Like, er, electing President Bush, or Prime Minister Gordon Brown (no
> > > > election) ?
> > >
> > > I'm a pedant, but you never vote for a Prime Minister. You vote for your
> > > local MP and the leader of the party with the most MPs gets to be Prime
> > > Minister.
> >
> > Well, if we're being pedantic then the Queen appoints the PM, and by
> > convention she chooses the person most likely to have the confidence
> > of parliament. There's nothing other than "constitutional convention"
> > to stop her picking anyone she likes, whether they're an MP or not,
> > and whether parliament likes it or not -- luckily the convention seems
> > quite strong. So all in all, there's not much voting going on, or
> > where there is it isn't necessarily treated in the way you'd expect,
> > which was kind of Steve's point.
>
> well, if we're being really, really pedantic, then i wasn't talking
> about that government, but the one here (nz), where there are no damn
> monarchs choosing leaders, [...]
really? wikipedia isn't so convinced: 'The post of Prime Minister is,
like other ministerial positions, an appointment by the
Governor-General "during the Queen's pleasure"' [1]
Convention means this isn't really true, as it does in the UK. Quite
what happens if you break convention I don't know. Probably a
Constitutional Crisis.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_New_Zealand
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