[OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki "map features"

Lester Caine lester at lsces.co.uk
Mon Dec 1 09:18:00 GMT 2008

Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Per-15 wrote:
>> If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme!
>> Smoothness is better than nothing.
> That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible).
It does not provide a platform to build on at all.

> Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend
> the access tags:
> bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable
> so you'd get
> highway=bridleway
> foot=yes (permitted, no problem)
> bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not practical)
> bicycle:hybrid=difficult (permitted but challenging)
> bicycle:mtb=yes (permitted, no problem)
Now that makes perfect sense and fits in with usability.

There IS a need for tagging things like width, height restrictions, and 
even 'steepness', but in the first instance simply getting a good 
coverage everywhere with a basic set of tags is more important than the 
excessive fine detail that is being proposed as 'basic tagging' ?

I don't want to reopen an old debate, but contour lines are ALMOST 
essential around here for determining the severity of a walking route, 
while those routes are well surfaced in places, the change in altitude 
makes some of them impractical for some of us 'less fit' walkers.

> It follows the time-honoured OSM principle of "tag as much as you know/can
> be bothered to do; crowdsourcing will make the data richer over time".
> But I really can't be faffed with explaining this to a bunch of droids on
> the wiki who may never have seen a bridleway in their lives but won't let
> that stop them voting. 
If there was an obvious set of tagging then there would not be a 
problem, but as yet there is nothing proposed that *I* would consider 
provides useful information. Perhaps it is time for secondary data 
projects - like the cycle map - to have thier own set of extra tags that 
are only used for those mapping excercises?

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