[OSM-talk] First OpenGeoDB Import is done

[Ben Laenen]

On Monday 21 January 2008, Johan Huysmans wrote:
> I checked this out on
> <http://informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.013361068022284&lon=4.29214993
>01165795&zoom=12&layers=B000F000F> but no extra placenames showed up,
> even not after a rerender.
> I investigated it with josm and it shows that the "place=" tag is
> always FIXME.

Looking at it, I think it's because of missing population information. 
And since population is probably used to tag with city/town/village in 
the other countries that got OpenGeoDB data, it just gives it a FXIME 
place tag when it's missing. But just guessing of course...

Anyway, we were still in the process of making conventions for the place 
tags in Belgium, so maybe it's good it didn't give a value to it yet...

> I also noted that the "name=" tag has 2 values, seperated by a ,
> (probably this is the dutch and french name) but in some places they
> are both the same?
> The double name is also true in ex. the is_in tag.

It's not Dutch and French (and if that were the case there would have to 
be a German name as well), it's just the same tag twice every time. 
Even in Brussels where the municipalities are bilingual it has the 
French name twice (and since the already existing place tags there have 
both Dutch and French names in their name key, it made duplicate nodes 
to already existing ones).

To keep with linguistic problems: all is_in keys in Flanders 
have "is_in=...,Belgique,...". If you do want to stick with the 
localized names it should be "is_in=...,België,...", 
and "is_in=...,Belgien,..." in the German community. Better would 
probably be to just stick with the English is_in=Belgium, since you 
don't need to do special rules for your import script, and we mostly 
use is_in=Belgium anyway already.

Next issue: the municipalities in Brussels region have "is_in=Bruxelles" 
tags, which is actually quite wrong: "is_in=Brussels-Capital Region" is 
better, since "Brussels" is just another municipality. Anyway, is_in 
tags in Brussels may be confusing anyway to foreigners, so better 
discuss it first :-)

But I guess we could better move the discussion for the Belgian 
OpenGeoDB data to the talk-be mailing list if you want to improve it, 
since it probably would only bore non-Belgian users :-)

(btw, did you put province and arrondissements place nodes in the data 
as well? I haven't found those nodes yet)

Greetings
Ben