[OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrlists at googlemail.com
Tue May 13 10:36:15 BST 2008


Steve Hill [mailto:steve at nexusuk.org] wrote:
>Sent: 13 May 2008 10:31 AM
>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways
>
>On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
>
>> This is an example of confusing the physical space with the legal
>> administrative description.
>
>Yes, but sadly the highway tag is defined in Map Features to encompass
>that confusing mixture of physical and legal descriptions. :)

Yes it is, that's the one thing I wish I had thought of when I produced the
original list back when the dinosaurs were still roaming the land ;-)

>
>(It is something we should probably try to move away from, but that's
>another discussion).
>
>> Just because it's a bridleway does not necessarily mean car=no.
>
>The wiki indicates that OSM considers highway=bridleway to be a footpath
>which horses are permitted on (I would think highway=footway, horse=yes
>would be better and am in favour of getting rid of highway=bridleway
>entirely.  However, I also want to be consistent with what other people
>are doing.)

The wiki is not very cleverly worded then. Probably because its trying to
combine the physical description with the legal access situation.

>
>> The landowner will almost certainly have access over the route. Since
>> it's a bridleway however the public probably do not (unless its
>> permissive).
>
>In this case, I imagine the highway belongs to the National Grid, since it
>provides access to the Swansea North substation and some of their offices.
>However, at the west end of the highway there is no "private", "no cars",
>etc signs, just a "No through road" sign (which makes sense since there is
>a gate at the other end... probably to prevent people rat-running).  Also,
>there are currently some roadworks on the highway, which are signed as you
>would expect them to be if they were on a public road (the normal
>red-triangle "roadworks" and blue-circle-with-white-arrow "keep right"
>signs).

Maintenance of signs is often slapdash. Often signage is only added if the
way is being abused and the landowner wants to put a stop to it. A gate at
each end and a padlock usually gets over most issues, but in this case they
would need to leave access for bikes/horses/walkers if they did that.

Cheers

Andy

>
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