[OSM-talk] pub vs café

[paul youlten]

The difference between pubs and restaurants is a getting a bit
blurred. But not so much between pubs and cafes.

In the UK pubs have to be licenced with the local council and usually
have restricted opening hours (i.e: they are not normally allowed to
sell alcohol before 11am). They also have to comply with national and
local legislation which can include things like not being within a
certain distance of a school, not allowing people under 16 years to
enter the premises unaccompanied and not being operated by someone who
is a convicted criminal.

Cafes are not usually licenced to sell alcohol and are simply
regulated by the local authority's food hygiene office. If a cafe or
restaurant wants to sell alcohol they have to apply for a licence just
like a pub or a restaurant. There used to be lots of rules about
restaurants not being allowed to have a "bar" where customers  could
sit and consume drinks and there was a rule about them only being
allowed to serve alcohol with meals; but most of these laws were
repealed under the Licencing act 2003.

PY


On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Tim Waters (chippy)
<chippy2005 at gmail.com> wrote:
> But I've been in many cafes with no dedicated kitchens (Starbucks, for
> instance). And a lot of pubs with dedicated kitchens.
> A pub's main revenue comes from the booze. Many of them are closing
> down their kitchens to save money. Some pubs have a tiny bar, and most
>  of it is a restaurant - so called "gastro-pubs".
>
> cafe, from coffee - selling coffee.  A coffee, or tea shop. Cake.
> pub, from public - selling, erm, beer. No cake.
>
> another, less official:
> A pub -  It has frosted windows, closed off areas, no table service.
> Mainly male. Is more popular in the evening and night.
> a cafe has clear windows, and a terrace open to the world. Table
> service, open to all, people watching is part of it. Is more popular
> in the daytime.
>
> Maybe, ultimately, it's cake vs no cake? Or pork scratchings vs cake?
>
> On 10/18/08, Matt Amos <zerebubuth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega
>>  <ivan at sanchezortega.es> wrote:
>>  > El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió:
>>  >> Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up.
>>  >
>>  > It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not.
>>
>>
>> there are several cafes near me with dedicated kitchen areas - often
>>  the british style "caff" which specialises in fry-ups. when i'm
>>  tagging i choose based on whether it looks like a lunch, snack and
>>  coffee place or a seated dinner place. sometimes the signage provides
>>  a big clue :-)
>>
>>  cheers,
>>
>>
>>  matt
>>
>>
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