[OSM-talk] YOURS now supports route using only cycleroutes -Update

[Peter Miller]

Given that we now have two web interfaces for routing and two routing
engines would it make sense to try to standardise the interface? I know
standards can be a pain, but so can a load of custom interfaces. Is anything
like this being done?

I believe that OpenRouteService uses an OGC standard for their interface. Is
this what you use? If not is it too big, heavy and slow, or is it just not
suitable or what?

If it is usable then possibly you could put a wrapper around the routing
engine you are using so that you can use the same interface as ORS. If you
did that then you could possibly let people choose the routing engine they
prefer and then possibly someone else might come out with a better routing
engine with the same API and it would also be getting very interesting :)

Anyway, thanks for what you have been doing. I am listening and
experimenting. I have been tweeking the tagging in my home town each week to
improve the routing using YOURS. It is still coming up with some weird
routes that I can explain and I will report them to you if I become sure it
isn't my fault. The details at the bottom of the page that report the
dataset version is very useful. An RSS feed to this would be handy, as would
more frequent updates if you can manage it. I find the weekly cycle of
testing, changing, waiting means that problems take some time to get sorted.
Mind you it is the same with Mapnik and the Cycle mapping.



Regards,


Peter
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-
> bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Lambertus
> Sent: 26 September 2008 11:15
> To: Talk Openstreetmap
> Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-talk] YOURS now supports route using only
> cycleroutes -Update
> 
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I'm not sure what is the status and goal of this site, so I don't know
> > how interested you might be in "bug reports", but I just tried to get
> > a fastest car route from Montréal Québec to New Haven, Connecticut, and
> > the route stops in the middle of nowhere.  The "shortest" route seems
> > OK, except it uses way too many little roads.
> >
> > Just for kicks, I also tried the fastest bicycle route from Montréal to
> > Buenos Aires and it similarly stops in the middle of nowhere.
> >
> 
> Status:
> - Website: heavily in development
> - Routing engine: don't know (not maintained by me)
> 
> Goal:
> Use OpenStreetMap data to make a routing website utilizing as much other
> (opensource) services/application as possible. I develop *only* the glue
> logic; the webinterface.
> 
> I'm always interested in bug reports, suggestions or code snippets but I
> don't maintain the routing engine.
> 
> Regarding your route from Montreal - New Haven, works for me.
> fastest:
> <http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=41.308153&flon=-
> 72.928158&tlat=45.531875&tlon=-73.636881&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik>
> 
> Shortest:
> <http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=41.308153&flon=-
> 72.928158&tlat=45.531875&tlon=-73.636881&v=motorcar&fast=0&layer=mapnik>
> 
> If a route stops somewhere between the start and stop coordinates then
> the routing engine (Gosmore) wasn't able to calculate a complete route
> and returns it's best solution (which might be using a lot of small
> roads even when you chose 'fastest'). In case of Montreal - Buenos Aires
> this is caused there isn't a continuing connecting road between those
> cities. Especially in Central America there is a lot of 'here be
> dragons' land. This effectively prevents routing between North and South
> America.
> 
> Although I've put some working long distance examples below there are
> also situations where Gosmore just seems to 'give up' while a route is
> possible. Example: just try to route from Berlin to Madrid (type those
> names to get the coordinates). Gosmore is not able to return a complete
> route but routes from Madrid to Amsterdam and from Amsterdam to Berlin
> (or Madrid - Geneve - Berlin and many other in-betweens) are working
> just fine.
> 
> Some other examples:
> Glasgow - London
> <http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=55.79274&flon=-
> 4.354897&tlat=51.389725&tlon=-0.114174&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik>
> 
> GB: Northeastern tip - Southwestern tip, 1445km
> <http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=58.642109&flon=-
> 3.068728&tlat=50.066191&tlon=-5.700649&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik>
> 
> Europe: Amsterdam - Madrid, 2056km
> <http://www.yournavigation.org/?flat=52.36227&flon=4.798082&tlat=40.409275
> &tlon=-3.710699&v=motorcar&fast=1&layer=mapnik>
> 
> There are also other routing 'problems' (weird route decisions) which
> are difficult to explain, so I'll create a wiki page for that where they
> can be gathered which might help to solve common problems.
> 
> 
> 
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