[OSM-talk] Tagging dangerous areas

Mon Apr 20 22:32:17 BST 2009

Although I've discussed the need for public footpaths to have a tag
landowner=hostile maybe with signage=dilberatly_altered...

Sounds like this is cause for a mash up from another source or website(which
could be set up for the purpose, or some goverment statistics etc.).

Someone mentioned hot or not. I overheard on irc someone mention
http://scenic.mysociety.org (which appears to be connected to geograph). I
think someone was going to mash it into a heat map overlaid on OSM. Would be
great if they do, otrherwise I might be tempted to.

I am currently available for hire to survey police-state roads (following a
recent success in London, see
http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2009/04/high-vis-authority-and-stealth-mapping).
Not sure I'm upp for rough areas yet, although being a student money and
beer could tempt me.

Gregory.

2009/4/19 D Tucny <d at tucny.com>

> 2009/4/20 D Tucny <d at tucny.com>
>
> 2009/4/20 Andy Allan <gravitystorm at gmail.com>
>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Matt Amos <zerebubuth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, MP <singularita at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>> after the wembley mapping party last year i heard suggestions of a
>>> >>> "locals=angry" tag. maybe we should expand that to include
>>> >>> "locals=violent" or "locals=heavily_armed"?
>>> >>
>>> >> What happened at the Wembley mapping party?
>>> >
>>> > andy and steve independently attempted to map the same road on a
>>> > council estate but both decided it might not be a wise idea. no
>>> > violence was done i think, just evil stares.
>>> >
>>> > andy actually tagged it "locals=angsty", rather than "angry", but
>>> > there is a precedent :-)
>>> >
>>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27794700
>>>
>>> I feel like I'm debating a "point of order" in a student union ( :-)
>>> ), but the encampment^Wstreet which Steve8 and I didn't want to map
>>> was this one, a short distance away:
>>>
>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/27693507
>>>
>>> Also, if you check on the wiki, the locals=angsty is defined as
>>> implying the tag mapper=slightly_lazy and is often used on hot
>>> afternoons that bring out the worst in British council estate
>>> congregation behaviour. The tag doesn't apply during rain or winter
>>> conditions, but applies doubly shortly after football matches...
>>>
>>
>> After reading this thread and the comments on the diary post, I decided to
>> see if there was any streetview there now...
>>
>> So, I entered Lynton Close, Wembley into the Google Maps find box and
>> these were the first and third results...
>>
>> Mr T Blair‎<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,8277933314319449699&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=1> -
>> more info »<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,8277933314319449699&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=1>
>> 10 Downing Crescent, London, ON N6C, Canada‎ - +44 7866 607197‎Unverified listing
>> Write a review<https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=local&hl=en&nui=1&continue=http://maps.google.com/maps%3Ff%3Dq%26source%3Ds_q%26hl%3Den%26geocode%3D%26q%3Dlynton%2Bclose,%2Bwembley%26vps%3D1%26jsv%3D154c%26sll%3D37.0625,-95.677068%26sspn%3D50.424342,79.101563%26ie%3DUTF8%26ei%3D4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ%26dtab%3D2%26cid%3D42945511,-81211446,8277933314319449699%26iwd%3D1%26iwloc%3DA%26action%3Dopen>
>> "The Committee will continue to keep all the issues covered by the Sixth
>> Report under *close* review, while also continuing to fulfil its terms of
>> reference by *...*" cabinetoffice.gov.uk<http://maps.google.com/local_url?q=http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/standards/publications/6th_report/correspondence/neill_blair.html&dq=lynton+close,+wembley&f=q&source=s_q&output=js&hl=en&geocode=&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&s=ANYYN7kCez7hisFRCZIbWnItF_cyjINxcA>
>>
>>
>> Gordon Brown's‎<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,1473789639052526619&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=3> -
>> more info »<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=lynton+close,+wembley&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&ie=UTF8&latlng=42945511,-81211446,1473789639052526619&ei=4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ&cd=3>
>> 10 Downing Crescent, London, ON N6C, Canada‎ - +32 2 298 75 00‎Unverified listing
>> Write a review<https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=local&hl=en&nui=1&continue=http://maps.google.com/maps%3Ff%3Dq%26source%3Ds_q%26hl%3Den%26geocode%3D%26q%3Dlynton%2Bclose,%2Bwembley%26vps%3D1%26jsv%3D154c%26sll%3D37.0625,-95.677068%26sspn%3D50.424342,79.101563%26ie%3DUTF8%26ei%3D4FnrSaawL5OyiAO7v6nNAQ%26dtab%3D2%26cid%3D42945511,-81211446,1473789639052526619%26iwd%3D1%26iwloc%3DA%26action%3Dopen>
>> "I am writing this over the Christmas Break, (the copy dates are a month
>> in advance of publication) and, as our Epetition to the Prime Minister has
>> just *closed*, *...*" sportsmansassociation.co.uk<http://maps.google.com/local_url?q=http://www.sportsmansassociation.co.uk/%3Fp%3D25&dq=lynton+close,+wembley&f=q&source=s_q&output=js&hl=en&geocode=&vps=1&jsv=154c&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.424342,79.101563&s=ANYYN7kQNn5Eq-2wU6NK27oX63h2kwuyfg>
>>
>> Off topic, but, what a crazy combination of information google have put
>> together there that I found amusing :)
>>
>> There's still no street view there, but, google's aerial imagery is pretty
>> high resolution...
>>
>> Teleatlas seem to have it fully mapped, including a side road within the
>> area (as seen on google), but perhaps they used the aerial imagery...
>> Navteq, as seen on yahoo didn't seem to want to go near it and it appears
>> made a guess at the angle and length too...
>>
>
> And some more info...
>
>
> http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/7600/response/16925/attach/3/lb_brent_cameras_d8_30092008.xls
>
> Describes 'The Travellers Site, Lynton Close' as a location of a CCTV
> camera...
>
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