[OSM-talk] Parking and Access

Roy Wallace waldo000000 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 8 00:26:35 BST 2009


On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Kev<osm at kevswindells.eu> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> While trying (and failing miserably) to find a parking space in Birmingham
> (UK) the other day (terrible sign age - talk about leaving it to the last
> minute - AND to top it all I must have parked in the one multi-story not
> already mapped on OSM in Brimingham) it got me thinking about the parking
> access restrictions - on the Wiki there is no consensus of how these should
> be tagged properly - has there been any general consensus on this in the
> past?
>
> In my experience there are three different types of parking:-
>
> Private car parks - limited to those with valid permits or employees and
> authorised visitors of the site (this may also be a small section of a
> larger car park - i.e. Staff Only).
> IMHO: access=private
> IMHO You would only want to route to these if you specifically select them.
>
> Private car parks open to the public - limited to those using the sites
> facilities - e.g. a Leisure Centre car park, one on a retail park, one at a
> supermarket
> IMHO: access=destination
> IMHO You would only want to route to these if you specifically select them
> or the related businesses (are there any relations to say these car parks
> are related to the shops surrounding them?)
>
> Public car parks - Open to anyone for any (legal) usage, sometimes on
> payment of a fee - e.g. your typical council run multi-story
> IMHO: access=yes
> IMHO these would be routable whenever you want to find parking nearby...
>
> It would also be useful if the wiki page included the "operator" key to
> encourage it's usage- this would make it easy for a Sat Nav device to enable
> the user to search for "Car Parks operated by NCP near here" or similar (for
> when you have a discount card / account enabling you to park cheaper /
> pre-paid at an operators various sites.
>
> It would also be useful for showing the (primary) payment method (for none
> contract users*):-
> e.g.
>
> Pay on return (I.e. you pay at a machine when you return to the car park,
> but before returning to you vehicle)
> Pay at exit (i.e. you pay at the exit barrier)
> Pay and Display (i.e. you park, pay, go shopping, return to vehicle, go)
> Free
>
> (Some places also have free periods - e.g. 00:00 - 07:00; 18:00 - 24:00 Mon
> - Sat; Some are free if you have your receipt validated; Some are free if
> you use them for less than 30 minutes etc,,,)
>
> Alongside the available payment methods
> e.g.
> Cash
> Cash (Exact Change Only)
> Visa
> Mastercard
> Mastro
> Mobile_Phone
>
> When visiting an unfamiliar city I (personally) would like to be able to set
> my sat nav destination to a car park near Corporation Street, Birmingham
> which meats my selected preferences.
> My preferences may then be
> Payment Type : Free OR pay on exit OR pay on return
> Car Park Type: multi-story
> Payment Methods : Cash OR Mastercard
> Operated by : NCP or "Euro Car Parks" or "Nottingham City Council"
> Obviously any decent routing software would realise that there may be a
> nearer car park that doesn't match everything and could suggest that to you
> to.
>
> As a small side issue, when it comes to rendering the car parks I think it
> would be benifical to show multi-story car parks differently - some people
> like to avoid them as they feel "unsafe", while other prefer them as you
> know there are usually going to be some sensible rules on usage reducing the
> risk of clamping.- e.g the "P" with a border or some sort of 3D effect?

All sounds good to me.




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