[OSM-talk] Parking and Access

[Peter Körner]

Roy Wallace schrieb:
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Kev<osm at kevswindells.eu> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> While trying (and failing miserably) to find a parking space in Birmingham
>> (UK) the other day (terrible sign age - talk about leaving it to the last
>> minute - AND to top it all I must have parked in the one multi-story not
>> already mapped on OSM in Brimingham) it got me thinking about the parking
>> access restrictions - on the Wiki there is no consensus of how these should
>> be tagged properly - has there been any general consensus on this in the
>> past?
>>
>> In my experience there are three different types of parking:-
>>
>> Private car parks - limited to those with valid permits or employees and
>> authorised visitors of the site (this may also be a small section of a
>> larger car park - i.e. Staff Only).
>> IMHO: access=private
>> IMHO You would only want to route to these if you specifically select them.
>>
>> Private car parks open to the public - limited to those using the sites
>> facilities - e.g. a Leisure Centre car park, one on a retail park, one at a
>> supermarket
>> IMHO: access=destination
>> IMHO You would only want to route to these if you specifically select them
>> or the related businesses (are there any relations to say these car parks
>> are related to the shops surrounding them?)
>>
>> Public car parks - Open to anyone for any (legal) usage, sometimes on
>> payment of a fee - e.g. your typical council run multi-story
>> IMHO: access=yes
>> IMHO these would be routable whenever you want to find parking nearby...
>>
>> It would also be useful if the wiki page included the "operator" key to
>> encourage it's usage- this would make it easy for a Sat Nav device to enable
>> the user to search for "Car Parks operated by NCP near here" or similar (for
>> when you have a discount card / account enabling you to park cheaper /
>> pre-paid at an operators various sites.
>>
>> It would also be useful for showing the (primary) payment method (for none
>> contract users*):-
>> e.g.
>>
>> Pay on return (I.e. you pay at a machine when you return to the car park,
>> but before returning to you vehicle)
>> Pay at exit (i.e. you pay at the exit barrier)
>> Pay and Display (i.e. you park, pay, go shopping, return to vehicle, go)
>> Free
>>
>> (Some places also have free periods - e.g. 00:00 - 07:00; 18:00 - 24:00 Mon
>> - Sat; Some are free if you have your receipt validated; Some are free if
>> you use them for less than 30 minutes etc,,,)
>>
>> Alongside the available payment methods
>> e.g.
>> Cash
>> Cash (Exact Change Only)
>> Visa
>> Mastercard
>> Mastro
>> Mobile_Phone
>>
>> When visiting an unfamiliar city I (personally) would like to be able to set
>> my sat nav destination to a car park near Corporation Street, Birmingham
>> which meats my selected preferences.
>> My preferences may then be
>> Payment Type : Free OR pay on exit OR pay on return
>> Car Park Type: multi-story
>> Payment Methods : Cash OR Mastercard
>> Operated by : NCP or "Euro Car Parks" or "Nottingham City Council"
>> Obviously any decent routing software would realise that there may be a
>> nearer car park that doesn't match everything and could suggest that to you
>> to.
>>
>> As a small side issue, when it comes to rendering the car parks I think it
>> would be benifical to show multi-story car parks differently - some people
>> like to avoid them as they feel "unsafe", while other prefer them as you
>> know there are usually going to be some sensible rules on usage reducing the
>> risk of clamping.- e.g the "P" with a border or some sort of 3D effect?
> 
> All sounds good to me.
> 

Me to, maybe you'd like to make a proposal of this?

Peter