[OSM-talk] tag proposal surface=gravel; concrete; dirt; grass

[Sam Vekemans]

So...
 "gravel" is already defined in the discussion page.. we can copy that over.

and "loose_gravel" and "compacted_gravel" also have clearly defined
definitions... can be copied over.  these are 2 sub-types of gravel...
alternatively tagged "surface=gravel"; "gravel:type=loose"
"gravel:type=compact"

the definition of 'dirt' refers primarily to "soil that is on the ground".
we can add that in the box. (and 'earth' is another term for 'soil')
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirt

*surface*  earth<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Tag:surface%3Dearth&action=edit&redlink=1>
[image:
Image:Mf_way.png] <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_way.png> [image:
Image:Mf_area.png]
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_area.png> Probably
the same as surface=ground
should be change to the same as surface=dirt

the current tag list in the chart of 'map features is not adequate.
surface <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface> paved / unpaved /
asphalt / concrete / paving_stones / cobblestone / metal / wood /
grass_paver / gravel / pebblestone / grass / ground / earth / dirt / mud /
sand / ice_road [image:
way]<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Mf_way.png> Apply
to all types of highways. If the tag is not present, it is assumed
surface<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface>
=paved<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Tag:surface%3Dpaved&action=edit&redlink=1>,
excepted for highway <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=
footway <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway> and
highway <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=track<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrack>.
(sealed/unsealed outside UK).


it needs to be broken down into it's own category above that all the other
main tags have, by actually showing the surface as 18 rows, is a lot
smarter. :)
... and it is NOT assumed surface=paved. .. we don't ASSUME :)  .. instead
we have "If no other values of surface is listed, the default value is
"surface=paved" ... but actually, it should be "surface=undefined", as the
default value if none are listed.

I think using the simple definition from wikipedia or wikitionary for each
of the missing definitions should be fine.

Anyway, i don't know how to add in more rows with a new sub section.

I have not no heard any objections to this yet. So it would be great to see
this moved forward.

Cheers,
Sam

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On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Courtland Yockey <
courtland.yockey at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Thread: Sam Vekemans (12/08/2009) > Craig Wallace (12/08/2009) > Sam
> Vekemans (12/08/2009)
>
> Regarding excerpt:
>
> > Yes, that is exactly what i am referring too.
> > We ALSO need to have a special wiki page (that lists each of these
> things,
> > and how they are rendered, and used.   This will alleviate the problem.
> > Since these 3 or 6 other values are common, it should be easy to make
> pages
> > for each of them and put 'status=in use'.
> >
> > Having these values (this goes with many other 'values') listed as just a
> > short description on a chart is not good enough.  Each value needs to be
> > properly defined, with rendering examples and pictures.   Otherwise, we
> can
> > continue talking about air, until the mars rovers stop working.
> >
>
> New content:
> A starting point would be to properly populate the table at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface rather than starting a new
> set of Wiki pages right off.  Thereafter, this page could be whittled down
> to a navigational aid to detailed treatments of particular values as
> needed.
> --ceyocke
>
>
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