[OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

[Mike Harris]

Mike Harris
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peteris Krisjanis [mailto:pecisk at gmail.com] 
> Sent: 28 August 2009 12:44
> To: Alex Mauer
> Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism
> 
> I second option that highway tag isn't used for physical purposes.
> Physical status of road *can* define it's importance (legal 
> or subjective), and I think there is where disagreement is.
> 
> More or less comon practice is to follow some kind of 
> rules/laws when tagging roads. But it is also clear that it 
> won't work for all 100%, there will be small perntage when 
> road shall be tagged by user's judgement. What I think that 
> user should have very clear guidelines how to act in scenario 
> like that. For example, in my country there were discussions 
> how to tag backstreet streets. I was thinking about 
> living_street, but there were arguments, that "Living street"
> ("Dzīvojama zona" here) is legal term and there is special 
> sign which indicates start or finish of such zone.
> 
> However, after careful vetting, one of us found that law 
> already says what I have suspected - backstreet streets are 
> living streets by definition.


The law may say that in ?Poland? (apologies if I've guessed the wrong Slavic language) - but I don't think it does in - for example - England. Here, I have hardly ever - if ever - seen a 'living street' - at least as I understand the wiki definition. I tend to use =residential for the backstreets (assuming they have vehicular access). Am I wrong? Am I alone in this?


> So I think wiki must have clear rules how to act when 
> highway's importance status is not known and trust people 
> instincts - but in same time, user should investigate 
> situation before doing so.


Agree with this - whether or not "importance" is the criterion!
 

> Cheers,
> Peteris.
> 
> 2009/8/28 Alex Mauer <hawke at hawkesnest.net>:
> > On 08/28/2009 03:46 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
> >> If dieterdriest has found a number of people who've been 
> ignoring the 
> >> definition,
> >
> > Nobody (that I know of) has been ignoring the definition.  
> It's just 
> > that the definitions didn't match the top-leveldescription. 
>  *None* of 
> > the definitions of the highway values has ever described 
> the physical 
> > characteristics of the road, apart from motorway in a very 
> limited sense.
> >
> > -Alex Mauer "hawke"
> >
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