[OSM-talk] Potlatch again

Steven Le Roux steven at le-roux.info
Mon Jan 12 10:30:40 GMT 2009


On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Gert Gremmen <g.gremmen at cetest.nl> wrote:
> Thank you Thomas,
>
> The image you provided to prove your solution
> was a complete surprise to me and may contribute to a
> solution for this everlasting Potlatch Critic.
>
> You are right, and I am right.
>
> My screen looks entirely different, due to the missed option
> (I mean: I missed it and probably also those users that have problems
> editing with Potlatch) to show ways as THIN LINES.
>
> Am I right in assuming that Potlatch in default mode shows fat ways
> and fat nodes ? Then just changing the default setting
> of this switch would improve a lot in editing quality.
>
>
> And to Richard:
>
> Why react so strong ?

Why to post that on a mailing list ?

Why no to post the appropriate trac ticket showing examples ?

why to not learn a computer language in order to make the patch ?

every one knows potlatch needs work... it's just useless to continue
blaming it knowing dev are aware of it...
>
> Instead of cursing  just ask why others
> experience problems and not shoot (screw?) the messenger
> especially if he provides proof of editing problems.
>
> Im a mapper, not a coder, and I won't make a Patch for obvious
> reasons.
>
> Richard, would you give it a try ?
>
> Set the default to thin lines ?
> Add another zoom level for those ****ing detailed crossings  ??
>
>
> To d
> Thanks for putting oil on the waves....
>
>
> Gert Gremmen
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Openstreetmap.nl  (alias: cetest)
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Thomas Wood [mailto:grand.edgemaster at gmail.com]
> Verzonden: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:09 PM
> Aan: Gert Gremmen
> CC: Talk Openstreetmap
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again
>
> 2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen <g.gremmen at cetest.nl>:
>> OSM fellows and friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry for bringing this up again....
>>
>> We have been discussing Potlatch lately.
>>
>>
>>
>> Take a look at this:
>>
>>
>>
>>
> http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/?zoom=18&lat=52.05674&lon=4.33844&layers=B0
> 000000F
>>
>>
>>
>> and at this :
>>
>>
>>
>>
> http://geo.topf.org/comparison/index.html?mt0=googlehybrid&mt1=mapnik&lo
> n=4.3380949&lat=52.0566501&z=18
>>
>>
>>
>> You may notice some anomalies in the way roads and tramway are (not)
>> connected.
>>
>>
>>
>> I won't blame the guy who did this!
>>
>> I am sure that the OSM-er who edited this was in good faith, BUT he
> used
>> Potlatch. :<((((
>>
>>
>>
>> Now charge the same view (copy URL) in JOSM and zoom in.
>>
>>
>>
>> You will see the mess, caused by potlatch being so inaccurate at high
> zoom
>>
>> levels (or in fact the lack of a good deep zoom level) that users are
>> virtually
>>
>> unable to decently connect roads, and creating a mess by "click and
> error".
>>
>>
>>
>> Go to http://openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=52.05599&lon=4.34094&zoom=17
>>
>>
>>
>> And enter Potlatch editor  (IN PLAY MODE) and try to fix the mess: You
> can't
>> !!!
>
> I just have. In potlatch, in play mode. It took me about 5 minutes.
>
> And here is my proof -
> http://flickr.com/photos/grandedgemaster/3188359905/
>
>>
>> All nodes are overlapping and you need a great deal of experience not
> to
>>
>> worsen this crossing.  No problem in JOSM though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please do not change (repair) anything for a few days so anyone
>>
>> can have a look for it and judge for himself.
>>
>>
>>
>> POTLATCH NEEDS IMPROVEMENT it's not an exception, I see these things
>>
>> every week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gert
>>
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>
>
>
> --
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> Thomas Wood
> (Edgemaster)
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