[OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

Nick Black nickblack1 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 14 02:48:03 GMT 2009


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
> OSM in 2009
> Took so little time
> For the lists to get so pissed
> But mercury is in retrogrades
> (and I don't believe in that, ok, anyways)
> Nothing a beer among comrades
> Wouldn't fix, mighty quick
> So welcome to all mappers and T B Lee
> A new year of maps, open and free!
> -Mikel
> (I'm not saying that the rest of this thread should be poems, but I think it
> would help)

Mikel - you're the light at the end of our tunnel ;-)
> ________________________________
> From: brendan barrett <shogunz0r at gmail.com>
> To: Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> Cc: talk at openstreetmap.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:37:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...
>
> Perhaps my point hasn't gotten through properly. My intention is
> merely to convey that this kind of language "we're just a bunch of
> clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up
> everything", does not help someone understand this "API 0.6 has been
> available for testing and reviewing for a while now. If there is
> somebody willing and able to review it they will have done so by now".
> As a newbie to the project, this kind of language deters any kind of
> participation in this forum due to fear of retribution. How do you
> build credibility for a project when your public communications are
> degrading? Rather not reply at all.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> brendan barrett wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not going to speculate on the fruits of such an exercise. My point
>>> is simply that if someone is willing to do so, then why stop them or
>>> belittle their effort.
>>
>> True, and API 0.6 has been available for testing and reviewing for a while
>> now. If there is somebody willing and able to review it they will have
>> done
>> so by now, and we won't stop them or belittle their effort!
>>
>> This is different from asking around whether somebody perhaps knows
>> somebody
>> who might be a database genius and who might perhaps be willing to lend us
>> his ears so that we can explain to him what OSM is about, what we've done
>> in
>> the past, what we'll do with 0.6, and why and where we'd value his
>> opinion.
>> We might go to such lengths if we were in really deep shit and didn't know
>> how to get out without external help, but I don't see a reason for that
>> right now.
>>
>> I'm also a bit offended by the fact that people seem to think that anyone
>> who has written a few RfCs must surely know people who can easily usher
>> OSM
>> into a new era by applying their vastly superior knowledge - and that's in
>> spite of me not even having designed anything close to the heart of OSM.
>>
>> Finally, I think that Tim has a right to be a regular mapper like anyone
>> else on this list, picking his area of interest and doing a little work
>> there, without everyone challenging him to get involved more and to send
>> his
>> friends and organisations to help. Has it occurred to anybody that he
>> might
>> just be in it for a bit of recreation like so many of us?
>>
>> Bye
>> Frederik
>>
>> --
>> Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frederik at remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
>>
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