[OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

Paul Johnson baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed Jun 10 19:30:36 BST 2009


Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2009/6/10 Mario Salvini <salvini at t-online.de>:
>> tag both ways as:
>> highway=cycleway
>> motor_vehicle=yes
>> footway=right
>> parking:right=inline
>> parrking:left=diagonal
>> width=13
> 
> I won't have it. This feature is a road, not a 20 metre wide cycleway 
> with parking facilities.
> 
> Yes there are different aims that people have in mind when they think 
> about our data, and to someone who only cares about routing for 
> motorized vehicles, this road might actually come close to a "cycleway 
> with cars allowed", but if I'd tell any of the residents there that they 
> live on a cycleway they'll either laugh or be offended.

Depends on the neighborhood.  Tell someone in Ladd's Addition who lives
on one of the bicycle boulevards (such as Ladd Avenue starting at
Hawthorne) that, and they'd probably be inclined to agree if they've
ever tried to get in or out of their driveway during morning or evening
rush hour.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.51174&lon=-122.65324&zoom=16&layers=0B00FTF

Coincidentally, the bridge just west of that recently had a
bicycle-versus-pedestrian accident severe enough they're talking about
eliminating pedestrian access to the Hawthorne Bridge in a tradeoff for
a second bicycle lane each direction, which suggests the bridge is
carrying close to as many bicycle commuters as cars.  This is actually
pretty believable for the location.

http://www.streetfilms.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/portland-hawthorne-poster.jpg

Notice the cyclists more or less ignoring the pedestrian lane (camera
left, their right) leaving the bicycle (their left) lane free for faster
commuters.  Not hard to imagine why they want to move pedestrians to the
next bridge, which has sidewalks but no bicycle facilities.

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