[OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards
Paul Johnson
baloo at ursamundi.org
Wed Jun 10 19:18:37 BST 2009
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2009/6/10 Mario Salvini <salvini at t-online.de>:
>> tag both ways as:
>> highway=cycleway
>> motor_vehicle=yes
>> footway=right
>> parking:right=inline
>> parrking:left=diagonal
>> width=13
>>
>> the rest you don't like is just a rendering issue but not about data, I
>> think.
>
> the rendering is a way of visualizing the inserted data. I believe
> that there should be a way to distinguish in the data between streets
> and ways, that is highway=pedestrian or cycleroad and highway=footway,
> path, cycleway etc. without such additional tags like width=13 (which
> imply to a human that it is a road ). A way with a width=13 IMHO is no
> more a way but a street.
Not only that, but around downtown Portland (LCN-40, the Willamette
Greenway Trail segment) and brief portions of SE Vera Katz Esplanade,
are highway=cycleway with widths exceeding 10 (there's a few spots, such
as the 000 block of SW Salmon Street between Willamette Greenway and
Naito Parkway around Salmon Street Springs that really should be redone
to be a closed way, highway=cycleway, area=yes to be properly mapped, as
the cycleway is unbelievably wide and uses the fountain as a central
island for an intersection, forcing the approach from the not-cycleway
portion of Salmon Street to be unbelievably wide (especially given that
cyclists entering the cycleway from Salmon Street do so in the center
lane, entering the cycleway area almost dead center to the fountain and
frequently having to make a hard veer to the right to avoid pedestrians
or the fountain itself on a sunny day, if they're pushing a yellow
light. (On wet days, there's usually no pedestrians and many cyclists
take a shortcut through the fountain since they're getting just as wet
either way)
http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=googlesat&mt1=tah&lon=-122.67306&lat=45.51533&zoom=17
So a cycleway with width=<big number> is possible, and if you live in a
cool-climate region dotted by hippie-infested college towns, it's fairly
likely you have at least one absurdly wide cycleway.
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