[OSM-talk] [Spam] Re: Alternatives to wikipedia?
Richard Fairhurst
richard at systemed.net
Wed Mar 18 21:23:08 GMT 2009
Peter - are you really sure about geograph? AIUI only the photos are
CC-BY-SA, the geolocation is OS-derived. Please check.
Sorry for crap formatting, moving house so on mobile.
Richard
Peter Miller-7 wrote:
>
>
> On 18 Mar 2009, at 17:11, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> Tim 'avatar' Bartel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If we're going to cooperate with Wikipedia, then they need to
>>>> cooperate with us by not allowing any dangling links.
>>>
>>> There are several reasons why this isn't possible, but the biggest
>>> one
>>> is the following: Wikipedia isn't controlled by the Wikimedia
>>> Foundation but by the community. With whom do you like to make an
>>> arrangement? It's pretty hard to make an arrangement with a community
>>> consisting out of constantly changing people.
>>
>> That is probably the main reason who I would prefer to find an
>> alternative 'location' to direct links to. And some useful suggestions
>> have already been made.
>>
>> While I CAN appreciate the idea of our own wiki. That would require a
>> lot more hardware. Viovio has several terabytes of images already,
>> and I
>> suspect wikitravel.org can probably top that. So sharing the load
>> would
>> sound a lot more sensible?
>
> As I see it there are a number of different sorts of 'associated' data
> for OSM that needs a reliable and welcoming home somewhere:
>
> 1) Photos - these need to have locations and a direction or
> alternatively two positions, one for the camera and one for the
> subject of the photo. In addition to that it is useful to know when it
> was taken and any special attributes, was it taken when it was
> snowing, was it raining, is it a picture of something pretty or of a
> defect or of a signpost or what. All of this information would allow
> applications to decide which ones to use. A journey planner would show
> pictures of the pretty things on the route but another application
> might want to show defects to the local council or show illegal
> parking to the police. So... there is a whole load of stuff to do with
> photos , some pretty pictures of scenery can go in WikiTravel and
> Viovio etc, but some of the other stuff wouldn't be appreciated there
> and we might need to provide a home.
>
> 2) Articles - background information for a street, when it was
> constructed, why, where its name came from and possibly plans for its
> future. Hard to see who else would give this house-room.
>
> 3) Subjective information about ways - muddy in winter, poor lighting,
> too narrow for a double buggy, very crowded on market days etc.
>
> I would like us to think about all this stuff. We need to decide which
> bit below in Wikipedia (certainly the right place for articles about
> towns), for Viovio (pretty pictures?), and which nerdy details about
> traffic, pot poles, traffic signs and bus stop poles and origins of
> street names belong in OSM and no-where else.
>
> Finally, lets not be frightened about the cost of another box and the
> hosting because terrabytes and gigabytes are really cheap these days.
> We have just bought a box with 7 Terrabytes of disk storage and it
> cost <£100 per terrabyte. We are also about to import all 1,000,000 of
> photos of geographic features in the UK from Geograph (all CCBYSA) to
> see how it copes.
>
> Can I suggest that if we are serious about this that we get a wiki
> page together with the brief for the project and see what it looks
> like as we work on it. Does this project have a name and are in vague
> agreement about the scope and the need?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Peter
>
>
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