[OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance required in various countries)

[Tom Hughes]

On 02/09/09 18:51, Peter Körner wrote:
> Tom Hughes schrieb:
>> On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>>
>> As an admin with the technical ability to do these things I'm
>> perfectly capable of reacting quickly once I believe I have legitimate
>> authority to act. I do not however plan to appoint myself as judge,
>> jury and executioner in these matters.
>
> But Dermot McNally already pointed out that this *is* vandalism, at
> least in Ireland:
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/041412.html
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/041397.html
>
> What more do you want? A Plane-Ticket to fly there and check for
> yourself? Sorry for that..
>
> I'm seeing people doing investigation, finding things are going mad,
> reporting this - and getting ignored.

Not one single person has reported it to the Data Working Group as 
suggested by the wiki page that has already been referred to.

>> What we are lacking is not people to take action, but mechanisms and
>> people to quickly investigate and make decisions on what action should
>> be take in an appropriate transparent, democratic and legitimate manner.
> Just as e.g. Dermot McNally did.

Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the 
decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in 
some way, not self-appointed.

>> A group of people demanding that "something by done" on a mailing list
>> does not, in my mind, constitute a legitimate authority for me to act.
> What/Who does constitute a legitimate authority for you?

Well that's the problem - the best thing we have at the moment is the 
foundation and it's working groups. In this case the Data Working Group 
is the appropriate one I guess.

Tom

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