[OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance required in various countries)

Dermot McNally dermotm at gmail.com
Wed Sep 2 19:55:19 BST 2009


2009/9/2 Tom Hughes <tom at compton.nu>:

> Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the
> decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in
> some way, not self-appointed.

FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and respect that
you don't want the final decision resting, by default, with you as the
man with the stick. This being so, you have to be prepared to assess
the claims of individual mappers on their merits, having regard to the
facts. I don't expect you to have prior knowledge of my body of work
(and IMHO it's extensive), but a number of members of what is a fairly
small Irish community also weighed in. We all presented the facts. And
TBH, in the area I map, I _am_ self-appointed as a quality champion,
such is the OSM just-do-it culture.

I think the problem here is what looks to Joe mapper like mixed
messages. The message that we should as much as possible fix vandalism
ourselves at local level tells us that we shouldn't expect central
intervention. The fact that, say, a copyright violator is hit with the
stick of ban suggests OTOH that gross breaches of
how-it-should-be-done _will_ be centrally sanctioned. And not enough
of us have considered where the dividing line between the two should
lie.

Dermot

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