[OSM-talk] Abnormal votings on military objects in RU wiki part; PocketGIS madness

Eugene Iline evgeniy at ily.in
Mon Apr 12 09:15:35 BST 2010


That is not the core problem, please do not extrapolate. That is not as wide
as you understand.
We take here only one or two laws concerning state secret. And that has very
little in common with, as you said, "Soviet law (with the same dose of
paranoia, of course)".
There is no word in these law about such objects as roads leating to
military object or whatever. They just declare that military objects'
dislocation is a matter of state secret. So until you mark an object "this
is a military object" there will be no problem with the laws. As I have
already mentioned twice, the real truth about most of such object that can
be known by people, that this is some territory with a wall and no access.

Yes we have a State mapping department which deals with the licensing and
they have a more restricting list of objects not to be depicted by the
license holders. But we are individuals and their license is not applicable
to us,

2010/4/12 Peteris Krisjanis <pecisk at gmail.com>

> However, as far as I understood, core problem is that in Russia,
> *anything* connected with military can be claimed as "state secret".
> It's leftover from Soviet law (with the same dose of paranoia, of
> course) and extreme example of subject. Therefore if OSM shows
> military objects in Russia, it can be ordered to be filtered out. If
> someone maps military objects, it can land them in legal hot water (if
> someone gets hold of OSMer location who did it). I think even some
> civilian roads can be claimed state secret if they leads to base which
> was sorta secret in Soviet times - but not these days.
>
> So questions are these:
> * How we advice as community to act in this particular case?
> * And how we deal with such problems in future?
>


-- 
Best regards,
Eugene Iline
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