[OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation

[Aun Johnsen]

Ok, so in the sense of "Conspiration Theory" I use the word "theory" in the
way scientists use the word "thesis", maybe I should start to call
"conspiration theories" for "conspiration thesis", but than nobody would
understand that I mean "conspiration theory". It is not my fault the word
theory have been misquoted in so many regular expressions.

A

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:03 PM, John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com>wrote:

> I think that you and I are using different definitions of "theory".  I am
> using the scientific definition of theory, "an explanation of how a group of
> facts relate to each other".  A theory, using that definition, continues to
> exist even once it has been proven.  You are using the colloquial definition
> of theory, "unproven speculation".  Using either definition, forbidding
> discussion of a conspiracy theory could mean that a real conspiracy would be
> allowed to continue.  However, I do agree that discussion of conspiracy
> theories has the potential to swamp a discussion forum, such as this mailing
> list.
>
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> Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation
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> Date  :Mon Aug 16 01:50:39 America/Chicago 2010
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> If you can back your claim of conspiracy by some sort of evidence than we
> can conclude that it is not a theory anymore, independent if it is a realy
> conspiracy or not. It is easy to say something in the line of "FBI plotted
> to assassinate JFK", but to prove it is harder, independente if they did or
> not.
>
> A
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:56 PM, John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com<mailto:
> john at jfeldredge.com> > wrote:
>  However, should someone uncover a real conspiracy, any attempt to reveal
> it to others would be discussion of a conspiracy theory, and therefore
> forbidden.  "Theory" does not mean "nonexistent"; the fact that the theory
> of gravity exists does not mean that gravity does not exist.
>
>  --
>  John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com <mailto:john at jfeldredge.com>
>  "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not
> to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
>
>
>
>
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>  From: pdorange at mac.com <mailto:pdorange at mac.com>  (Pierre-Alain Dorange)
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>  Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:31:36
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>  Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation
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>  M?rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>  > >        • No conspiracy theories
>  > ...
>  >
>  > could this be amended by "unless there is a real conspiracy"?
>  > Otherwise our hands might be tied in case there is a conspiracy.
>
>  "no conspiracy theories" seems clear.
>  A real conspiracy is not a theory. "conspiracy theories" are always
>  trolls
>
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>  Pierre-Alain Dorange
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