[OSM-talk] Fork OSM to a CCBYSA 2.0 continuation : A solution proposal

[Fabio Alessandro Locati]

Only a question:
Node A_1 is created as CC-BY-SA. Node A_2 (same as A_1) is created as ODbL.
What a mess whould happen? When I'm editing, I'm editing A_1? Or maybe A_2?

Or if:
Node A_1 exists under CC-BY-SA. Node A_2 (same as A_1) is created under PD.
The CC map will have both nodes.

Am I wrong or it would be a giant mess? I like the idea (or, at least, the
basic idea) but I think the implementation would create giant messes.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 7:58 AM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen <g.gremmen at cetest.nl> wrote:

>  A fork as stipulated is not necessarily about a group of people leaving
> OSM , but about
>
> we (OSM) deciding to continue in two or more future directions
>
> covered by different licenses, and maybe finally decide which license fits
> best.
>
>
>
> This would require the OSM database to *include a extra field for each*and every item indicating the license
>
> the data was provided by its contributor. The license choice can be made in
> the users profile.
>
>
>
> For most of OSM there is no difference.
>
> *The license  is only relevant once data is extracted to external parties*
> .
>
>
>
> External parties will therefore always know under what license any node and
> any way of the
>
> database had been granted to them.
>
>
>
> The map server and most applications at would remain as they are.
>
>
>
> We may however create a second and or more maps showing only the data from
> specific licenses
>
> and enabling OSM-ers to evaluate the consequences of their choices.
>
>
>
> I think this is the only way to solve this everlasting and destructive
> license discussion.
>
>
>
> It requires however, some flexibility of mind, and the trust that OSM will
> not
>
> abuse the choice made by its contributors. As the database and the license
> field will
>
> be visible to all of us, I trust that will be not a major problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gert Gremmen
>
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> P* Before printing, think about the environment.*
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>
> *Van:* talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org [mailto:
> talk-bounces at openstreetmap.org] *Namens *80n
> *Verzonden:* Monday, August 23, 2010 5:17 PM
> *Aan:* mk at koppenhoefer.com
> *CC:* talk at openstreetmap.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [OSM-talk] Let's prepare to Fork OSM to a CCBYSA
> 2.0continuation
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:21 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 2010/8/23 Michael Kugelmann <MichaelK_OSM at gmx.de>:
>
> > BTW: @Felix Hartmann
> > using words like
> >>
> >> so fuck off.
> >
> > shows that you don't have arguments. So step back - defamation is alsways
> a
> > sign of weakness. Learn a good conduct before you continues with the
> > discussion.
>
>  to be fair: he didn't write (others) should f**k off, what he meant
> was "clearly state this somewhere and tell everyone else to fuck off".
> Thus I agree that this might not be adequate language, you shouldn't
> critisize him for that, probably he wasn't aware because English is
> not his primary language.
>
> On the argument I agree though: make your own mailing lists for your
> fork. It's probably OK to announce it here (with an URL where to go,
> which was actually missing in your announcement), but further
> discussions should then be brought to the place of your fork, not
> inside the resources of OSM.
>
> I also agree it would be absurd to have OSM handle over the account
> data of its contributors (and is against almost any privacy law at
> least in Europe). There is also no logics in that: people who want to
> can simply create a new account with their old credentials on the fork
> site (I'm not planning to join the fork, but if I was I surely
> wouldn't use the same pw I used for OSM).
>
> There is absolutely no need for OSM to relinquish any private account
> data.  No fork will ever need that data and I doubt that any fork would even
> bother asking OSM for it.
>
>
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