[OSM-talk] Serious consideration of "Newbie Editor"

Graham Jones grahamjones139 at googlemail.com
Thu Feb 25 21:20:28 GMT 2010

A simple/complex switch in an existing editor is a nice idea.
I didn't suggest it because Potlatch is the obvious candidate and I know
nothing about Flash programming, so couldn't offer to help do that - I would
have a bit more chance with a Java applet, but I am a bit old fashioned like

Javascript would be the obvious next choice after Flash, but I find it very
hard to de-bug and it always feels a bit un-responsive to me, but that may
well be the networking rather than the program itself.


On 25 February 2010 21:13, Tim McNamara <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz> wrote:

> On 26 February 2010 09:47, Graham Jones <grahamjones139 at googlemail.com>wrote:
>> We could then have a nice banner on the bottom of the screen pointing to
>> the descriptions of the other editors that would allow you to add or change
>> geometries.
> +1
> I think the app should provide some form of stepping stone functionality
> for more advanced tools.
> For future discussion, once scope has been determined: Would it be an idea
> to provide a toggle between simple mode & complex mode inside of Potlatch,
> rather than build a completely new editor? Potlatch could default to simple
> mode to prevent scaring off new contributors, but provide more complex
> operations with one click.
>> Graham.
>> On 25 February 2010 20:29, Roy Wallace <waldo000000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Liz <edodd at billiau.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I would suggest that Potlatch is left alone for its devotees.
>>> >
>>> > I'd start with the following in the design brief for the "Newbie
>>> Editor"
>>> > Can add nodes, label them with default tags only (other than name).
>>> > Can add ways, again default tag list only, other than name.
>>> > Very limited deletion ability (no clear idea yet on how to define
>>> this).
>>> I suspect starting at even this level of complexity would cause
>>> feature creep towards Potlatch, anyway...In particular, being able to
>>> add/edit ways requires handling many complex concepts (as others have
>>> brought up), like joining ways, way direction, overlapping ways, etc.
>>> How about an even bigger step back? If starting a new editor from
>>> scratch is to be worthwhile, surely it should be a LOT more basic than
>>> all other existing editors. i.e. how about only these features:
>>> 1) Add POI
>>> User specifies:
>>>  a) where it is
>>>  b) what it is (choose from a single list of options)
>>>  c) the name
>>> 2) Edit Name
>>>  e.g. add or fix the name of an existing road - this should help a
>>> lot with noname roads

Dr. Graham Jones
Hartlepool, UK
email: grahamjones139 at gmail.com
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