[OSM-talk] no rendering of amenity=veterinary

[Joseph Reeves]

>The only real issue here is that "voted on" tags are taking a long time to get implemented in Osmarender, and we should help the developers to reduce this.

But as we've seen (and as you're discussing elsewhere), this is only
the real issue if you see Osmarender/Mapnik as the only outputs of
mapping effort. As Patrick described above, "approved tags" are voted
into the wiki, not the two renderers on osm.org.

>Using a tag that will never be recognised by any software is (I think) at least as bad as abusing a tag so it will be treated in some way by some currently existing software.

This is the chicken and egg situation that you're trying to impose,
but it's not how OSM seems to work in real life. We don't add features
to the database because they'll look nice on the osm.org homepage,
instead the renderer is tweaked to match the state of the database. If
you were really concerned that veterinaries weren't appearing on the
osm.org page you could create openvetmap.org and host your own
renderer and custom rules. It's that ability, not the tiles on
osm.org, that make this project so worthwhile.

The "real issue" as far as I'm concerned is that far too many people
think that osm.org _is_ OpenStreetMap and tag/vote/map/moan
accordingly.

Cheers, Joseph



2010/1/10 Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com>:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Joseph Reeves <iknowjoseph at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> >You currently have this chicken-and-egg situation where you don't know if
>> > it's worth using a tag because you don't know if it will ever be
>> > implemented.
>>
>> But now you're just mapping for the renderer.
>
> Not by the usual interpretation of the phrase "tagging for the renderer", as
> has been discussed several times recently. Using a tag that will never be
> recognised by any software is (I think) at least as bad as abusing a tag so
> it will be treated in some way by some currently existing software. There's
> a balance between the two, and tagging in total ignorance of software
> support is not a good strategy.
>
> Anyway, as this is a recurring debate with no consensus, I think I'll leave
> it there. The only real issue here is that "voted on" tags are taking a long
> time to get implemented in Osmarender, and we should help the developers to
> reduce this.
>
> Steve
>