[OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 11 22:52:09 GMT 2010


Will to tomorrow,
chk out swoop
http://www.mindswap.org/2004/SWOOP/

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Graham Jones <
grahamjones139 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> I have not the faintest idea what that means, but it sounds impressive!
> Please add it to the list, but it would be nice to define some of the terms
> and abbreviations to help the ignorant like me!
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham.
>
>
> On 11 March 2010 22:39, jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com <
> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Description :
>>
>> Integration of the java swoop ontology editor into JOSM. A JOSM ontology
>> plugin.
>>
>> Work :
>>
>> 1. create a live mapping from OSM into RDF , so that the swoop can access
>> the data in OSM without conversion.
>> 2. be able to have the changes in the rdf be reflected back into the OSM.
>> 4. conversion of the wiki into OWL, so that the rules and relations of the
>> OSM are documented formally.
>> 5. running of the pellet inference engine and all the other reasoning
>> tools from swoop to infer new facts and validate the data.
>> 6. encoding of the rules of the JOSM validator into OWL rules, maybe we
>> will have to include new derived geometric things like if two ways intersect
>> and also ways to only process data in a certain radius.
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Graham Jones <
>> grahamjones139 at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I agree that improving documentation would be  a really useful
>>> contribution to OSM, but Google are quite explicit that this is outside of
>>> the scope of GSoC (
>>> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#doc_proposals
>>> ).
>>>
>>> A project along the lines of 'context sensitive help in OSM editors'
>>> could be a possibility though.  I have never worked on one of the main
>>> editors, so I have no idea how hard this would be from that point of view.
>>> The Artifical Intelligence aspects are quite difficult in themselves though
>>> - it would have to try to guess what you would like to do from what you have
>>> just done - quite a challenge, but please add it to the list if you can
>>> manage to describe it!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> Graham.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11 March 2010 10:59, jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com <
>>> jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> lets put it in a different perspective :
>>>>
>>>> Make the documentation as part of the program!
>>>>
>>>> I would like to see for example a help system that is integrated to the
>>>> wiki,
>>>> Click on a tag, have it pull up the wiki entry, be able to add new
>>>> unknown tags or rename them.
>>>> We could even have an OWL Ontology created with a reasoning engine to
>>>> specify rules for tagging.
>>>>
>>>> Really, the software should be so good that you dont need docs or
>>>> videos.
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Peteris Krisjanis <pecisk at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> > GSoc
>>>>> > student pool is a very talented one - it would be good to use them
>>>>> for more
>>>>> > critical things. Of course, OSM unlike other projects is basically a
>>>>> > collection of tools maintained by various people, so difficult to
>>>>> achieve a
>>>>> > consensus.
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> Having one place of knowhow of mapping is quite critical for project
>>>>> like OSM. And believe me, creating good documentation requires quite a
>>>>> skill and isn't easiest job in IT world as we would like to see.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Graham Jones
>>> Hartlepool, UK
>>> email: grahamjones139 at gmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Graham Jones
> Hartlepool, UK
> email: grahamjones139 at gmail.com
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