[OSM-talk] Moving to Java 1.6 not so easy to swallow

[Steven Le Roux]

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Christian Rogel <
christian.rogel at club-internet.fr> wrote:

> I found a bit unsensitive Frederik Ramm's assumption that folks
> "willfully chained to their Hardware/OS supplier and that supplier is
> unwilling to release Java6 for your platform, it may be time to finally
> ditch that supplier" (he maybe missed typing a smiley, however).
> As pointed, it may be cool for OSM being running on free software, but
> that's no good not to pay any proper attention to people unwillingly
> harmed by the evolution (professionally or for whatever motive of their
> own).
> Maybe, Java 1.6 has very luring features, but the search of perfection
> by smart developers has to be weighted when considering the number of
> OSMers who cannot afford themselves any changement.
> In my case, there is no way to get Java 1.6 running on Mac PPC (I bought
> my machine four years ago).
> Meaning that people like me must invest is not a good answer.
> So, I do demand hat there will be a final and stable JOSM version for
> 1.5 with adequate cadastre.fr plug-in.
> This would have to be publicized on the homepage for loading
> (FR:WikiStartJOSM).
> Meanwhile, I remain a bit irritated by the suddenness and the lack of
> attention.
>
>
Hi Christian,

Few things,

First one, the announce of an end-of-life PPC product line thas been done in
2005, so 5 years ago. If you decided to buy one anyway, that's all your
responsability. (maybe you just weren't aware of that... it's ok)

Second, even if you couldn't run the last JOSM, I think the actual one is
JDK 1.5 provides you almost all what you need. Maybe you won't be able to
run the last features, but if JOSM is moving now, don't expect miracle from
the next week... so your JOSM in j1.5 will be an old one, but not totally
obsolete in the next months (which let you take the time to change
eventually the one you have)

Third, Apple has a big thing to do here... As said Fred. Ramm, Apple has a
problem with java, and as a buy, it's a thing you have to judge for the
choice of the product you're buying.  Ok you won't be able to know what
component you will need in 5 years... but if there is already a limitation,
you can't really come and complain against developpers...

Taking appart, there could be a backport... but I think we have better
things to do.. plus, JKD 1.6 is 4 years old now... it's not like if it was
asked you to run the last 1.7 not released, or a release not largely
deployed.

So don't panic anyway ! :)


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