[OSM-talk] Okay, this is just cool (Lockport, NY)

[yvecai]

On 03. 04. 11 12:46, Elizabeth Dodd wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 12:03:16 +0200
> M∡rtin Koppenhoefer<dieterdreist at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> 2011/4/3 Elizabeth Dodd<edodd at billiau.net>
>>
>>> While I'm not in the habit of collecting information from Google
>>> StreetView, it is fair to say that if I go to the public library
>>> and in the thousands of volumes there I find one with the
>>> assistance of the old card catalogue and the Dewey assignment of
>>> books, then no one is concerned about my use of the library
>>> database to find my book.
>>>
>>
>> because they consent the use of the database to find books. Also
>> Google Streetview consents the use of their database, but they have
>> ToS associated with that use, and if you use their db, you agree to
>> be subject to their ToS.
> But is that legally binding?
> Click Through licence agreements are not binding everywhere, so
> actually, I don't agree to be subject to their ToS.
>
>
>
>>
>> The Google StreetView database isn't in Europe, it doesn't have any
>>> special conditions attached to its use,
>>
>>
>> it has. At least if there aren't for Streetview in particular, the
>> ones of Googlemaps in general do apply.
>>
>>
> You of course think like an engineer, and I don't.
> You know quite well that I meant that there was no European Database
> Rights attached to the database, and you deliberately ignore that to
> strike what you believe will be a killer blow.
>
> What you state might be true under European law, but it doesn't work
> where I am. I can do as Pieren states, and that is interpret
> information I see in those photographs and reuse the information I
> interpret. There's no special account here of the click-through licence
> (mainly because the contract is one-sided and non-negotiable), and the
> database has no particular protection in the law.
>
> I still would rather take my own photographs.
>
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And why not just be fair? Does Google agrees OSM uses Streetview to map 
or not?
If they do, just wait for a formal agreement. If they don't, take your 
own camera.
Yves