[OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

[Mikel Maron]

No Steve, you don't have to take this. Anyone trying to do something for this 
project shouldn't have to take abuse.

How about we stop useless flaming. Seriously, this is just self-destructive 
behavior.

How about if anyone in this community has something to say, they say it 
constructively, with respect, with understanding of what we've been through 
before.

I'm not saying we can't disagree, or make suggestions to each other. But stop 
wasting our energy with nastiness.




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From: SteveC <steve at asklater.com>
To: Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
Cc: Jochen Topf <jochen at remote.org>; Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>; osm 
<talk at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 11:12:31 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki


Mikel and SWG don't have to take all this, I did it so flame me Jochen.

Steve

stevecoast.com

On Apr 30, 2011, at 9:04, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:


So tired of the bad attitude in OSM. Perhaps you're just trying to be funny 
Jochen, but really, this makes me want to quit trying to do anything.
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From: Jochen Topf <jochen at remote.org>
>To: Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
>Cc: osm <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>Sent: Sat, April 30, 2011 10:53:46 AM
>Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the  Wiki
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>On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:11:52PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:56 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
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>> > I noticed that there is a new OSM logo in the wiki. I find it strange
>> > that important things like changing the well established logo of the
>> > project are beeing changed without any discussion or notice on any of
>> > the lists, or did I miss something? Or was the site hacked?
>> >
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>> I'd have to concur. Firstly, a new logo is not something you roll out on its
>> own, it's part of a new 'corporate identity' and it's not something you just
>> implement by accepting a pull request. Secondly, there's tons of derived
>> products that are sitting there looking dated all of a sudden; not only
>> national or  sub-project web sites, also printed materials. It seems very
>> amateurish to have different logo versions sitting around in different parts
>> of the project. All in all I believe some advance notice would have been a
>> good idea. Mind you, I'm not even talking about a community voting process -
>> I'm not in favor of that in this case at all.
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>Don't be so hard on the Strategic Working Group. After months of talks they
>have actually done something! I think we should celebrate that! After dipping
>their toes into many important subjects for the future of OSM they have chosen
>the logo change as the most important strategic change and implemented it! I am
>glad OSM is not just a bunch of nerds any more, but that we now have a
>strategy! Yeah!
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>And I think having a logo that looks a bit skewed is a perfect fit for OSM. It
>symbolizes the imperfect nature of OSM!
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>Jochen
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