[OSM-talk] Education and Community Manager @ OSM World

Frans Thamura frans at meruvian.org
Sun Dec 11 06:52:07 GMT 2011


Hi kate,

I can see value of your work to 'revoluse' education problem here, i
believe most emerging country.

Lets me show, after my work create result.
On Dec 11, 2011 1:48 PM, "Kate Chapman" <kate at maploser.com> wrote:

> Since I came up in the discussion I figured I should explain myself:)
>
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org>
> wrote:
> > Frans,
> >
> >
> > On 12/10/2011 10:29 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> > OSGeo is an organisation that works differently from OSM; it is more
> driven
> > from the head, from people who decide that they want to have a XYZ
> chapter
> > or install an XYZ manager, completely independent of whether or not
> there is
> > a community. This is usually not how OSM works.
> >
> >
> >> I chated this with Kate, about her LearnOSM, which Kate put under HOT
> >> umbrella. Education = HOT?
> >
> >
> > Even though HOT is yet another organisation with different concepts and
> > rules, what you describe here is just an example of do-ocracy. In OSM, if
> > someone makes something for learning OSM then that's ok, everyone can do
> it
> > and you don't have to found an educational chapter first and appoint
> > yourself to a post on that.
>
> LearnOSM really is just a website we made.  While we were training
> people it become apartment we needed simple step-by-step instructions.
>  Jeff Haack just stayed up late one night and started working on it.
> It has been awesome how other countries have gone and started
> translating it.
>
> >
> >
> >> I also discusses with Emir (Kate's team here), about OSM-id community
> >> program, and "in plan" is the answer.
> >
> >
> > OSM doesn't "plan" its community. The community just grows by itself.
> OSMF
> > does occasionally make plans for various kinds of outreach but you should
> > not expect miracles from anyone. OSM is a do-it-yourself project. The
> > community in your country comes from you, and people like you, starting
> > something - not from people in Europe or America making big plans.
>
> Actually "in plan" was the website we were working on.  We don't have
> a "big" plan for the community.  Our goal is to get people mapping. If
> someone figures out a better way to doing that cool. We hoped the
> website would help people get together.  Yes Emir is part of my team
> since he is doing an internship with HOT, but he is free-willed and
> can do whatever he wants.  Meaning he's had meetings with other groups
> interested in OSM in his spare-time.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
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