[OSM-talk] OSM Emitter

Oleg gelosi at gmail.com
Wed Jul 6 11:58:49 BST 2011


By the way, we'v reduced permissions for twitter - just like it should be!
Thanks for mentioning that!

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RO

2011/7/6 Oleg <gelosi at gmail.com>

> Cool thing around pictures, as most of twitter clients can upload them
> themselves and make a short links in the posts, so, we can try to use that
> links and put them into nodes as well!
> Also @mentioning - we're adding both ways now - so, you'll be able to use
> @osm_it - to hide your mappings from your followers, or #osmit - as it works
> now...
> Next, a MapDust - have to get in more with service, as it makes sense to
> use it with osmitter.
> For now, when you're adding a POI, you'll get a @reply from osmitter with
> link to the node on the OSM, like this:
> http://twitter.com/#!/osm_it/status/87777704488865792 - so, you can check
> it on the go.
>
> btw, cool to have this kind of feedback!
>
> --
> RO
>
>
> 2011/7/5 Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
>
>> Hi Oleg,
>>
>> Well you beat me to it :) This is in fact almost exactly what I had in
>> mind and what I discussed at WhereCampEU.
>> Apart from the comments Martin made, we also discussed using a mention
>> instead of a hashtag. This helps to keep the user's followers twitter
>> streams free of the osmitter tweets that do not make sense to most anyway.
>> The rationale here is that a tweet starting with a @mention will - I believe
>> - only show up in your follower's stream if they also follow that account.
>> Also, I've been thinking about feedback to the user. Because GPS is
>> generally inaccurate in dense urban areas this way of adding things to OSM
>> will result in quite a number of those things ending up on the next block or
>> on the wrong side of the street. It would be good if there were some way for
>> the user to easily review his submissions. This could be done in a number of
>> ways. Firstly there is the intermediate layer that Martin mentioned. I was
>> talking to Oliver (Skobbler) about using MapDust for that and that makes a
>> lot of sense to me. If you choose to go the route you chose and add directly
>> there should be either something like a queue of twitter submissions on the
>> osmitter web site that you could pull up to review your submissions, or
>> possibly a twitter reply with a link to a mobile site allowing you to do
>> that. As it is, this system will generate a lot of inaccurately located POIs
>> – or does your experience show otherwise?
>> A last thing that I've been thinking about implementing is a way to add
>> links to photos to the POI. Twitter clients on smartphones generally have
>> tight integration with photo sharing services - take a picture, twitter
>> client uploads and inserts link to image page on sharing service. That link
>> could be added as a tag (url:photo or something?) to the poi.
>>
>> Best
>> Martijn
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Oleg <gelosi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Martin,
>>>
>>> Yes, I've talk to Shaun McDonald - he told me about this discussion. The
>>> sad thing - I was planning to visit wherecamp this summer as well, but no
>>> luck there ;)
>>> Think, correcting posted data is a useful tool, we can do that - as we
>>> can keep all the data, we'v parsed.
>>> First we want to add is a human-readable tagging - so, you can add "fast
>>> food italian pizzeria Ololo #osmit", but, still thinking on formatting and
>>> parsing rules on this case. A good example is another place, named "French
>>> Fries", for instance...
>>> If there's any idea on parsing both of the cases correctly... and yes =
>>> we'll update that example!
>>>
>>> --
>>> RO
>>>
>>> 2011/7/5 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> While I think that this is generally not a bad idea, I'd still expect
>>>> that the data has not the average positional quality OSM usually has.
>>>> Martijn van Exel gave a talk at Wherecamp-EU in Berlin about the same
>>>> topic (twitter to osm) and in the following discussion the consensus
>>>> was towards a intermediate layer where those tweets would be stored,
>>>> so that you can do reasonable verification at home with the comfort of
>>>> a map and probably some nice aerial fotos in the background to
>>>> validate the "raw" data.
>>>>
>>>> I also stumbled upon the first tagging examples on your page:
>>>> Italian pizzeria
>>>> amenity=cafe name=Pizza Ololo cuisine=italian #osmit
>>>>
>>>> Is this really consensus to tag a pizzeria as cafe? There is also
>>>> restaurant and fast_food in the amenity value-set.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Martin
>>>>
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>> martijn van exel
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