[OSM-talk] OSM Emitter

Thu Jul 7 23:10:10 BST 2011

I've added 5 POI's in Haarlem today. It's a fun way but it doesn't
really work for me.
Maybe it's my phone, a 2 year old HTC Magic...

The 5 POI's I added were next to each other, about the same distance
between them.
The first POI was uploaded right on the location I added it.
The next 2 were both on the same spot, about 50m wrong.
The fourth was hundreds of meters off, in a different part of the city.
The fifth wasn't recognized because I started my tweet with #osmit
instead of ending with that.

Some other remarks:
- & turns into &
- My phone's gps sucks :)
- #damnyouautocorrection
- Still a cool app but not for me

Greetings,
Floris Looijesteijn

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Oleg <gelosi at gmail.com> wrote:
> By the way, we'v reduced permissions for twitter - just like it should be!
> Thanks for mentioning that!
> --
> RO
>
> 2011/7/6 Oleg <gelosi at gmail.com>
>>
>> Cool thing around pictures, as most of twitter clients can upload them
>> themselves and make a short links in the posts, so, we can try to use that
>> links and put them into nodes as well!
>> Also @mentioning - we're adding both ways now - so, you'll be able to use
>> @osm_it - to hide your mappings from your followers, or #osmit - as it works
>> now...
>> Next, a MapDust - have to get in more with service, as it makes sense to
>> use it with osmitter.
>> For now, when you're adding a POI, you'll get a @reply from osmitter with
>> link to the node on the OSM, like
>> this: http://twitter.com/#!/osm_it/status/87777704488865792 - so, you can
>> check it on the go.
>> btw, cool to have this kind of feedback!
>> --
>> RO
>>
>> 2011/7/5 Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
>>>
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> Well you beat me to it :) This is in fact almost exactly what I had in
>>> mind and what I discussed at WhereCampEU.
>>> Apart from the comments Martin made, we also discussed using a mention
>>> instead of a hashtag. This helps to keep the user's followers twitter
>>> streams free of the osmitter tweets that do not make sense to most anyway.
>>> The rationale here is that a tweet starting with a @mention will - I believe
>>> - only show up in your follower's stream if they also follow that account.
>>> Also, I've been thinking about feedback to the user. Because GPS is
>>> generally inaccurate in dense urban areas this way of adding things to OSM
>>> will result in quite a number of those things ending up on the next block or
>>> on the wrong side of the street. It would be good if there were some way for
>>> the user to easily review his submissions. This could be done in a number of
>>> ways. Firstly there is the intermediate layer that Martin mentioned. I was
>>> talking to Oliver (Skobbler) about using MapDust for that and that makes a
>>> lot of sense to me. If you choose to go the route you chose and add directly
>>> there should be either something like a queue of twitter submissions on the
>>> osmitter web site that you could pull up to review your submissions, or
>>> possibly a twitter reply with a link to a mobile site allowing you to do
>>> that. As it is, this system will generate a lot of inaccurately located POIs
>>> – or does your experience show otherwise?
>>> A last thing that I've been thinking about implementing is a way to add
>>> links to photos to the POI. Twitter clients on smartphones generally have
>>> tight integration with photo sharing services - take a picture, twitter
>>> client uploads and inserts link to image page on sharing service. That link
>>> could be added as a tag (url:photo or something?) to the poi.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Oleg <gelosi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>> Yes, I've talk to Shaun McDonald - he told me about this discussion. The
>>>> sad thing - I was planning to visit wherecamp this summer as well, but no
>>>> luck there ;)
>>>> Think, correcting posted data is a useful tool, we can do that - as we
>>>> can keep all the data, we'v parsed.
>>>> First we want to add is a human-readable tagging - so, you can add "fast
>>>> food italian pizzeria Ololo #osmit", but, still thinking on formatting and
>>>> parsing rules on this case. A good example is another place, named "French
>>>> Fries", for instance...
>>>> If there's any idea on parsing both of the cases correctly... and yes =
>>>> we'll update that example!
>>>> --
>>>> RO
>>>> 2011/7/5 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> While I think that this is generally not a bad idea, I'd still expect
>>>>> that the data has not the average positional quality OSM usually has.
>>>>> Martijn van Exel gave a talk at Wherecamp-EU in Berlin about the same
>>>>> topic (twitter to osm) and in the following discussion the consensus
>>>>> was towards a intermediate layer where those tweets would be stored,
>>>>> so that you can do reasonable verification at home with the comfort of
>>>>> a map and probably some nice aerial fotos in the background to
>>>>> validate the "raw" data.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also stumbled upon the first tagging examples on your page:
>>>>> Italian pizzeria
>>>>> amenity=cafe name=Pizza Ololo cuisine=italian #osmit
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this really consensus to tag a pizzeria as cafe? There is also
>>>>> restaurant and fast_food in the amenity value-set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Martin
>>>>>
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