[OSM-talk] Flash cookies

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Thu Jun 23 07:51:33 BST 2011


I do not have the (dutch) law at hand, do you?, but I believed this
was for tracking cookies and third party cookies only.
I suppose that the full implementation of this
directive/law requires browser interaction and ultimately
intervention by MS/Google/Mozilla and others.


Firefox has a number of privacy options for standard cookies
and a number of plug-ins about cookies and notable a simple one for
flash cookies. It deletes flash cookies on exit of the browser. 
While this might not be in line with the law exactly, it fulfils
the function for most user, unless you let your browser open all the time. 

So probably the cooky used by potlact are not so much a concern,
as long as it's function is notified (site? / Help? / popup?)
to the user.

I suggest that Openstreet add a tab regarding privacy of it's users
where these types of things are mentioned. 

Gert Gremmen
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-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Martijn van Oosterhout [mailto:kleptog at gmail.com] 
Verzonden: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:32 AM
Aan: Steve Bennett
CC: talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Flash cookies

On 23 June 2011 03:55, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Markus Lindholm
> <markus.lindholm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> But there's no need to store them on the client, as all users have to
>> log in the preferences can be stored server-side. Atleast I throw away
>> all cookies when I close the browser.
>
> So out of curiosity, the proposed law says it's ok to store user
> preferences server side, but not in the browser? That doesn't make any
> sense at all, from a privacy perspective.

Not exactly. What the proposal says is that you need to tell people
you're using a cookie and why you're using it and presumably let them
know they can opt out. At which point you can probably tell them that
they'll just get the default settings every time. You only need to ask
them once. (though how you're going to track that without a cookie I
have no idea).

When you store data about a person on the server you're also supposed
to tell the user you're doing that and allow them to view/delete it.

This new proposal is the kind of law you get when you let people who
know little about technology decide things. They somehow got the idea
that only advertisers use cookies, and they use them to track
people....

Mvg,
-- 
Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog at gmail.com> http://svana.org/kleptog/

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