[OSM-talk] A reliable process for handling OSM license violations

Russ Nelson nelson at crynwr.com
Sun Mar 20 23:50:19 GMT 2011


Gert, as long as OSM is copyrighted, the OSMF will need to be in the
business of suing OSMers. If you don't like the idea that the OSMF
should come after a fellow mapper, why, then, welcome to the group of us
who believe that OSM should be in the public domain.
-russ

ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen writes:
 > Stop this nonsense. OSM is about mapping, not about enforcement
 > of licenses.  Take your GPS and go outside. Or do some useful
 > mapping or japan of libya. Stop hustling the community about
 > this kind of trivialities. We are NOT commercial, and there is no
 > money involved !! Nothing to lose but our time! 
 > 
 > Hall of Shame : 
 > 
 > Gert Gremmen
 > 
 > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
 > Van: Michael Collinson [mailto:mike at ayeltd.biz] 
 > Verzonden: zondag 20 maart 2011 18:49
 > Aan: OSM talk
 > Onderwerp: [OSM-talk] A reliable process for handling OSM license
 > violations
 > 
 > There are now at least 1 to 2 reports every month of folks not giving us
 > 
 > proper CC-BY-SA attribution.  These are mostly websites but include 
 > poster advertising, a TV advertisement and a TV show.
 > 
 > We need a reliable process for dealing with these.
 > 
 > Currently, the License Working Group has been doing some work but it 
 > feels that it is not dealing with the issues adequately and some issues 
 > not at all.
 > 
 > What should we do?
 > 
 > Here's a run down of what happens at the moment:
 > 
 > - At the very minimum, there should be a public record of alleged 
 > violations to show that these things do not pass un-noticed and to 
 > provide a central point for collating frequency and the nature of the 
 > problem.  So far, if the LWG hears a report, we document the basics in a
 > 
 > "Hall of Shame" section of our weekly meeting minutes, 
 > http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes
 > 
 > - A member of the OSMF board or LWG  takes up the particular issue. This
 > 
 > depends very much on personal enthusiasm. It requires initial tact - 
 > most instances are neglect/cannot be bothered rather than purely wilful.
 > 
 > It requires persistance and follow-up,  - we generally get an "oh we 
 > will fix it immediately" ... and then they don't. It requires careful 
 > coordination within the OSM/OSMF community to provide a united front. It
 > 
 > may require research - for example, how exactly should a TV ad provide a
 > 
 > CC-BY-SA attribution? And lastly, future cases may involve bumping up to
 > 
 > formal legal help and legal action.  Not easy for one person to do.
 > 
 > 
 > Mike
 > OSM Foundation License Working Group
 > 
 > 
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