[OSM-talk] Tracks and there place in society
Ben Robbins
ben_robbins_ at hotmail.com
Tue May 24 20:47:36 BST 2011
Richard,
I am appreciative of the lengthy reply, but I really feal like you haven't read what i have asked.
Firstly let me say that I havn't been away for a long time. I simply haven't been editing much recently (I'm assuming you say this based on my edit log or something). I have read much, often, and gathered data intensively in this period. I do stand corrected however on the designation=public footway, and apologies for not finding this; however it doesn't render and is a sub-page listing, so it doesn't actually devalidate the original point. If you point was valid, then I would expect to have a clear answer returned at me, and to find myself quite stumped. Yes I have barged in, but I am welcoming a barge back out the door with an answer. Hell, I wan't nothing more than to have it thrown back at me. (question repeated at the bottom)
foot=yes, horse=yes i explained the problem about in previeous emails. a motorway is more than car=yes. It's a bundle. This is more than just a word issue. It doesn't get render results, and would be hard to.
"we optimise for ease of mapping" - I agree that this is where to go, but I don't see it in this case.You then go onto explain highway=footway bicycle=permissive etc. I understand this, this isn't new, hell it's been around years.
What you are doing is taking 'tweak' tags, to modify a 'bundle' tag (yes made up terminology, but hopefully it makes it clear). Rendering a set of 'tweaks' would be a lot of work, and wouldn't correctly define something. It would also require modifcation on any change in the 'real world' which wouldn't be required with a 'bundle'. However...again, if it renders and is correctly mapped, does it matter, i don't know.
Again to the 'ice the cake' I know all of this. I don't want to seem big headed, but this isn't isn't a 'new development' that I haven't considered, and it seems somewhat like what I have said is, ironically, has been walked in on and your telling me I've approached it all wrong.
I'm sure many people are happily mapping, but if you look at the renders, it doesn't represent quite what is there, and i can't really explain this in any more detail.
Also, I have no idea how to take this to talk-gb, except by simply replying there not here, and breaking up a string of responses. I did however justify why it's here, which your welcome to read. I'm still struggling some what with getting these replies in the right place, so sorry about that.
So to get back on track, and I think the answer is clear. There is no way to get a byway on a track to render as a byway on a track on either mapnik or osmarender. Is that correct? And if so, does the current tagging scehem simply require a render change to allow this, and if so I shall move on to a render request/proposal where needed and forget about all the other points I initially stated and that have been missed.
Ben
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