[OSM-talk] Komuna e Malishevës, Serbia ?

Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Sun Apr 1 09:16:25 BST 2012


this message bounced (too many recpt.) so i am sending it again :
Ok people,

I think we agreed here on the "on the ground rule", kosovo is on the ground
the republic of kosovo and not serbia.

nothing you will say will change that fact. I have been there many times,
and it is its own place, they have their own passports and these are
recognized by germany and usa and uk etc.

belgrad is not in fact control of kosovo, kosovo is its own country.

I am sure that osm wants to keep the mappers there happy so they will
continue mapping.

lets stop this game and get back to work.
please revert the changes to the database.

2012/4/1 Mike Dupont <jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com>

> the map reflects it,
> we have right now the admin level of kosovo as less than a country.
> I noticed recently that the serbia relation contains it.
>
> In any case, osm is right now working hard to keep the community going,
>
> and I think that we need to make sure that the mappers are not offended
> when they look at their home town.
>
> I can imagine that osm will lose a bunch of dedicated mappers if the
> continue to offend people in that manner.
>
> mike
>
> 2012/4/1 RB <tanrub at gmail.com>
>
>> Please : I am not making anymore "bloody politics" than people claiming
>> that the situation is damn simple. I am a swiss citizen (not a Serb) and I
>> really like all the people in Kosovo (KOA as well as KOS and the other
>> ethnicities). It has nothing to do with taking side or whatever, but I am
>> just saying that is is a complicated situation and that our map should try
>> to reflect it.
>>
>>
>> 2012/4/1 Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk>
>>
>>> Mike Dupont wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2012/4/1 Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk <mailto:lester at lsces.co.uk>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Altin Ukshini wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        Does anyone care about these reports ?
>>>>        I said it before and I'm saying it again, we can't
>>>> monitor/administer
>>>>        the map
>>>>        everyday and you know this, we don't even have enough people
>>>>        contributing in OSM
>>>>        here in Kosovo and Serbians are using this opportunity to change
>>>>        whatever they
>>>>        want in the map.
>>>>
>>>>        I don't think that you might want to loose contributors from
>>>> Kosovo !?
>>>>        You have to report these violations... how much will this last
>>>> until someone
>>>>        makes a decision ?
>>>>        We have already reported so many violations till now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    'Location' is somewhat hit or miss everywhere. My own diary postings
>>>> give
>>>>    some strange textual descriptions of where they were supposed to be
>>>> located.
>>>>    The problem here is simply that there is no clear mechanism for
>>>> identifying
>>>>    'where' a location is, so until all of the relevant boundaries are
>>>> mapped
>>>>    and tested in the same way as the intensive effort on getting the
>>>> coastline
>>>>    complete it is going to be difficult to fix some of these
>>>> irritations.
>>>>
>>>>    I've given up asking for a proper check on hierarchy place and is_in
>>>> which
>>>>    would at least get towns in the right country ... rather than
>>>> relying on the
>>>>    mapped boundaries ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this has changed, it used to be kosovo.
>>>> it needs to be fixed, please.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My point is ... does anybody actually know where it is broken?
>>> It is not the 'is_in' tag ... that isn't used to determine location ...
>>> last time I tried looking at this problem in the UK nobody seemed to know
>>> how the location was ACTUALLY generated :( It looks to the 'administrative
>>> boundaries' areas and so presumably someone has been playing with them?
>>> It's a pain trying to find what has been 'modified' ...
>>>
>>> ( No bloody politics here RB !!! )
>>>
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